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Title: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 10 October 2012, 05:46 PM
I have been here a while now and I'm enjoying the hell out of The Org, its people and features n Information which led me to ponder on the origins and history.

I am also a member on 4 or 5 other MB sites but W116.org has my loyalty and patronage over all others and its eclectic and international flavour as well as the huge amount of reference material just seems to "Click".

Which leads me to ponder where it all began and who's to blame for this wonderful madness because as creator of numerous forums myself both commercially and personally I know its a difficult task and that forums are largely the creation of its members under the guidance of the Admin.

I was originally brought to The Org via a Google search showing the 116 workshop manual and joined to see what else there was, Found insanity in the form of numerous members hilarious and yet informative posts (Yes MT and TJ) and the rampant use of photo's and other members sharing.

So I felt it was only fair to contribute to the madness.

SO!

How did it all begin?
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: nathan on 10 October 2012, 08:24 PM
It goes like this,
Mforcer/admin set it up
Wa blokes find each other: wgb, mt, tj, me
Mt gets angry
Koan, Oscar renaissance period
Mt gets angry
Some other guys get angry and leave
Mt angry again
Tony, oversize influx
That's a very quick run down!  ;)
Nathan
Ps don't get mad mt! I got love for you!
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: John Hubertz on 10 October 2012, 08:41 PM
Please post a timeline!  Now take a breath and follow me on this one:

Your sons and daughters will be on this site.

Some grandsons and grandaughters will be on this site.

A few great-grandsons and great-grandaughters will be on this site.

Folks, the internet (historically speaking) is brand new.  It appears to be the new "big" thing, and isn't going anywhere.  Assuming this, the notes we are writing, the posts, the technical data, the pictures will outlive us all.

You see, it isn't us - we aren't special.  It is the cars...  Oh sure, in 50 years there will be only a large handful of W116s left, in 100 years perhaps only a handful.  But remember people, these aren't just cars, these are Mercedes-Benz....

This site will outlive us all - in my opinion it will outlive us by a thousand years.

(http://www.changingworld.com/catalog/images/PO-3005.jpg)
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: JasonP on 10 October 2012, 09:22 PM

A thousand years from now the internal combustion engine will be illegal and the internet, or "Nöosphere," will be accessed only by one's DNA signature. Repairing and modifying intellectual property will be illegal, and sharing such knowledge will be punishable by a fine of up to $500,000,000 Gaias, or 20 Sols in Reform Camp, or both.

The Mercedes logo will be thought of by Harvard historians and archeologists, (because they will still be dumbasses 1,000 years from now), as a cult symbol of crime and ecological destruction, from artefacts of gang members wearing them and Green pamphlets found in time capsules.

My OM617.950 will be in my descendant's basement, fully restored, and used during family get-togethers to drive around in ventilated underground tunnels, singing outlawed German ballads on outlawed German machines.

http://www.youtube.com/v/ltkDizNq2dY

Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: WGB on 10 October 2012, 10:20 PM
Quote from: nathan on 10 October 2012, 08:24 PM
It goes like this,
Mforcer/admin set it up
Wa blokes find each other: wgb, mt, tj, me
Mt gets angry
Koan, Oscar renaissance period
Mt gets angry
Some other guys get angry and leave
Mt angry again
Tony, oversize influx
That's a very quick run down!  ;)
Nathan
Ps don't get mad mt! I got love for you!

When you know the history that is a very succinct run down.

Many of us knew each other via an earlier site on one of the bigger bulletin boards and migrated to this site after Mforcer set it up.

When I purchased my 450 there was no on-line technical assistance available and it sure made a big difference to put up problems and receive answers from people all over the place.

The site was more Australian based with a few US brothers like John Hubertz who added their own colour.

Then after a period of innocence the climate changed and our Sydney brethren formed Topklasse and largely left this site.

The org has stayed with a more technical slant and as John says - it owes it's existence to our cars and the generosity of Mforcer for keeping it going.

Bill

Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: 13B on 10 October 2012, 10:23 PM
For a while there from 2008-2010 there was a W116 racing team "TeamW116" which this site was responsible for being the meeting place for the three unlikley racers.

I.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: John Hubertz on 10 October 2012, 11:05 PM
Quote from: 13B on 10 October 2012, 10:23 PM
For a while there from 2008-2010 there was a W116 racing team "TeamW116" which this site was responsible for being the meeting place for the three unlikley racers.

I.

Those were the good old days.  Anyone still have a screenshot of the old format?  I still miss it sometimes... in my dreams.  Those halcyon days, with big Max rolling steady under my (then) svelte frame.  Ahhh, the memories.

Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Big_Richard on 11 October 2012, 01:40 AM
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Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: motec6.9 on 11 October 2012, 01:51 AM
Ha Ha Ha I need a good laugh .Don't get angry MT ;D
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Big_Richard on 11 October 2012, 02:49 AM
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Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: s class on 11 October 2012, 03:23 AM
I've been a regular member since Feb 2006 - and there have been some ups and downs, but for the most part, the flavour of the place has remained, and is such that it has always been my 'home' on the internet. 

Ive bought parts from, and sold parts to, quite a number of members here and have always had great dealings.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: motec6.9 on 11 October 2012, 03:36 AM
Hi MT I would never ask .Been there myself but I do love a laught and drink . :)
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: TJ 450 on 11 October 2012, 04:55 AM
Guys,

I reckon what's been said pretty well sums it up. I think I joined in 2007 from memory, when I was doing some research just before purchasing my first 116, the 450SEL. I was in awe of the information available then, and before that my previous forum experience was with the Brickboard Volvo forum where I spent many hours.

Certainly, a lot has happened in the time I've been a member.

Tim
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: John Hubertz on 11 October 2012, 09:20 AM
Quote from: Major Tom 6.9 on 11 October 2012, 02:49 AM
I dont get angry anymore.

I live like a king now, and back then I was in a very ugly situation for about 5 years that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, which absolutely will not be gone into detail on.

'fraid you'll have to look elsewhere to see that kind of entertainment. ;)

Major Tom, I've ridden out good and bad times here too.  You've sure provided me with plenty of good humor and encouragement these last few years.

Glad to hear things are going better now my friend.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: gf on 11 October 2012, 10:29 AM
Im absolutely sure on the net i saw the w116 logo looking up mercedes cars in 2002 or there abouts?Taking a break from a monumental assignment. The articles were cool but I didn't even know how to drive at that time! This is by far the best model specific site Ive seen! Things that many professional mechanics couldn't get sorted, have been fixed by advice of Org members. I firmly believe w116.org increases the standing of these cars amongst car buffs- many have seen the site!
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: thysonsacclaim on 11 October 2012, 01:39 PM
Yup. This site rocks. I've been a member for coming on two years (can't believe it!).

Although I am 116-less atm, I still have been popping in now that my personal life is back on track. I like to see others' projects and you guys are a real class act.

Anyway, the folks here are fun, sarcastic, helpful and very diverse. Yeah, I'm sure some times folks have gotten into a tissy here or there (myself included), but the lot of everyone I have talked to, dealt with, or posted to/with have always been courteous and mature, even if we disagreed. There are no trolls, little savagery, and lots of great people with great experience.

And I am sure my MB days are not over, and that they will entail only 116 or earlier models as those are my faves. It may be in 6 months, or 5 years, but I know it will happen again. And anyway, with the help of you, I have learned a lot, and a lot about myself. I feel obliged (in a good way) to share what I have learned from the 'veterans' to the newcomers, or at least direct them to existing posts.

Cheers all
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 11 October 2012, 05:17 PM
MT Angry? Nahhhhhhhhhh

Splits in Ranks? Not unusual in forums, I watched this happen 7 or 8 times with another car forum and the original site is still there and strong yet all the offshoots are dead or stagnant.

Long live the People's Front of Judea (PFJ)

I do enjoy the relaxed nature of The Org and thanks to you Nathan for your simple "timeline" lol
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 11 October 2012, 05:25 PM
And John is bang on the money, I have laughed my arse off at most of your dry dry humour MT/GS/LG and its kept me a little saner than usual.

Its a bit like a German flavoured Penn and Teller....................

Mforcer?

Cheers! and keep doing what you are doing.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Big_Richard on 11 October 2012, 05:49 PM
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Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 11 October 2012, 06:15 PM
Quote from: Major Tom 6.9 on 11 October 2012, 05:49 PMW116 people for the W116 people, By the W116 people, we may have differences in opinions at times but we all share one thing in common, a common respect of the w116 without the bullshit politics to go with it. ;)





Here here!

And who the hell charges for info on an enthusiast forum?
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: JasonP on 11 October 2012, 06:49 PM
Quote from: Tony66_au on 11 October 2012, 06:15 PM
Quote from: Major Tom 6.9 on 11 October 2012, 05:49 PMW116 people for the W116 people, By the W116 people, we may have differences in opinions at times but we all share one thing in common, a common respect of the w116 without the bullshit politics to go with it. ;)





Here here!

And who the hell charges for info on an enthusiast forum?


For $20 I'll tell ya .....
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Big_Richard on 11 October 2012, 07:08 PM
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Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: JasonP on 11 October 2012, 07:16 PM

(http://blog.inthewildtesting.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Doh.jpg)

Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 11 October 2012, 10:54 PM
Lemme see now............

20 USD = about $8.23 in West Australian dollars.........

BARGAIN!

MT. Tasteful?
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: nathan on 12 October 2012, 06:07 AM
Back to seriousness, the org from memory, was a shoot off from a yahoo group we were both members of.  Mforcer had a bold idea and set the site up with early members from the yahoo group. Before the org site  reformat, there was a section with the history of the org. I remember as i was mentioned as a founding member. The time was march 27 2004, when I was first registered. I note mforcer or the architect, is registered as march 24 2004.  I did most of my posting early on when I was doing the major work on my first 6.9 which is now at an acceptable level. Not being mechanical like guys such as tj, mt or s class, I don't post as much. However, I have personally met members from nsw, Victoria as well as having 116 days here locally. A great social tool indeed!
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Big_Richard on 12 October 2012, 06:14 AM
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Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 12 October 2012, 06:50 AM
A few great forums developed from Yahoo Groups and before Yahoo remember "Excite Communities"?

Delphi forums were also great and I was in my heyday being paid to transfer these groups to Web based freestanding forums on whatever software they chose especially when Delphi banned adult or dubious content after their ownership change.

Forums were being deleted left right and center and the paranoia was HUGE!

All I could think of was the Luverly Gelt, Oooo dat luverly money I was beschmeckling with all the forum schmutter I was doing!

5 code monkeys, a tech and me............  I should never have sold the biz..........

So 2004 eh?

Not so old really then but you guys are doing something very well to get the Org to this state.

Thank Dog too or id be buggered on the 116 front
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: nathan on 12 October 2012, 06:51 AM
You misposted mt, I have a big tool...
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: adamb on 12 October 2012, 08:49 AM
Quote from: nathan on 12 October 2012, 06:07 AM
Back to seriousness, the org from memory, was a shoot off from a yahoo group we were both members of.  Mforcer had a bold idea and set the site up with early members from the yahoo group. Before the org site  reformat, there was a section with the history of the org. I remember as i was mentioned as a founding member. The time was march 27 2004, when I was first registered. I note mforcer or the architect, is registered as march 24 2004.  I did most of my posting early on when I was doing the major work on my first 6.9 which is now at an acceptable level. Not being mechanical like guys such as tj, mt or s class, I don't post as much. However, I have personally met members from nsw, Victoria as well as having 116 days here locally. A great social tool indeed!

I just checked my Profile and it looks like I've been a member here since December 2005. Before then I was active on the mercedesw116 Yahoo forum that was set-up by a guy in UK that I knew who was really into W116 for a while. I also used to bother with www.m-100.org/www.m-100.cc but found those fora a little crappy. This site is ace though.

Time flies but W116 stays constant!
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: John Hubertz on 12 October 2012, 02:45 PM
OK - Now that we're firmly back on topic, I have a couple of suggestions for this thread:

1.  Let's get a formal timeline of how things started, and the early teething pains, etc...  nothing long or complicated, but maybe it would be neat to document the names of the first few members, etc.  It would also be nice to chart the growth of the membership over time, including the addition of the international members.

For example, who was the first international member?  How are the members distributed around the world?  How many countries are represented in the membership?  Are we all male, or is there an obscure female or two?

I volunteer to write up the W116 "Wiki" article if someone can give me names and dates, and it would be nice to document the real names of the founders (for posterity), with their permission, of course. 

2.  I'd love to see a screenshot or two of the early activity, in the old format, just to document the change.

3.  How much traffic does the site usually generate?  What is the most popular topic of all time?  Who owns the most W116s among us?

You could keep adding things forever, but this would probably be enough to create a good "sticky" forum post - and it would really help new members understand the 116 owner community and how forums like this are originated.

For example, I had no idea the forum was this young - it was booming when I signed on in 2006.

I have no idea who the "owner" of the site is, or how it is administered.

I do remember actively resisting the new format!   ::)  But hey, I like old things - that's why I love the 116.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: oversize on 12 October 2012, 04:50 PM
I'd be good to see where the Chapters are located!!!!  It's a shame there's such a large gang in WA and not in Melbourne!  LOL!   ;D
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: JasonP on 12 October 2012, 04:57 PM
I am very grateful for this forum and the people on it. I could never have kept my car running without it. I bought this thing almost a year ago, and almost everything I have learned has been through here. I do have Mercedes-Benz service manuals and other websites I go to, but basically, here is where I learn.

My sister got a compliment today driving my car in town. The guy said he has owned three Benz's.

I hope I'll be able to assist others as I learn more, so they can own and love their Mercedes-Benz as I do mine. We're a special breed. And I'm glad to be part of it.

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The beer made me add this ...

http://www.youtube.com/v/tybugI5CkIs



Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 12 October 2012, 07:44 PM
What a great Idea John!

A Wiki page would be a great addition and direct even more people here!

Something I have noticed about The Org is that like most successful forums it is an offshoot of an existing Yahoo/Delphi etc "Group".
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: oscar on 15 October 2012, 02:22 AM
LOL Nathan, great rundown. Does koan not post much these days either?

Howdy folks, haven't been round these pages for some time.  What once was routine to check the org multiple times a day has dissipated to, well nothing. I never dreamed I'd fall out of lurv with the w116 but it just happened and other interests took over. All the other cars are nearly gone too including Povo. Great days they were   :'(   

Until last week I haven't given any thoughts to w116 matters for months until I started work on dismantling the red 280.  I started the 350 for the first time since july which has been offroad since december last year. I'd hate to think how manky the fuel is but it started imediately and all I wanted to do was drive it.  Revved it a bit, changed gears back and forth and finally turned it off and unplugged the battery.  So anyway, reality sank in quick, nothing's gonna change anytime soon except soon I'll be back to where it started for me, a single 350se.

Which for the sake of this thread, when I got my 350 I stumbled on the original format of the forum back in 03 or early 04. I dont have screenshots but I remember it to have a black background, 100 or so members. I'm sure my member number back then was below 100 when I joined in 04 though I think it was reset to 05 when the forum changed format and appearance, or I changed name. The current appearance is perhaps the 4th skin??? mforcer, where art thou bruvver?

Not really sure how a timeline would look or what would be included but for me, "the renaissance" as nathan puts it was the highlight. Late 2006 to late 2009. It saw a grille badge, team w116, a few GTGs, a flurry of activity of posts and wrenching by so many. Ingenuity from homemade tools like wgb's rear axle carrier and valve tool, to my fave, koan's becker stereo input jack. I learnt so much.  It's just good to see the place still motoring along with new and old. Thumbs up to nutz too for, knowledge aside, he uses the coolest avatars.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: s class on 16 October 2012, 08:37 AM
Oscar, you are missed around these parts, and you will always be part of the foundation of this place. 

Hey, you had a lot to do with me overcoming my fear o D-jet....
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: oscar on 17 October 2012, 01:48 AM
haha, d-jet, nothing to it. Nah I perused a few d-jet specific threads last week and I think I've gone rusty.  Too many specifics that were stored in my head have disappeared.  I don't want to sound too soppy but if it wasn't for the likes of you sclass plus others, can't name em all of course, but there's no way I would've attempted some of the things I did do, nor undertaken the research and reading I did.  I just wouldn't have known where to start and I've always admired fellas like yourself that complete jobs thoroughly.  It inspires people to have a go.

 
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: John Hubertz on 17 October 2012, 07:43 AM
Thanks for all the "great idea" comments, but when I put "Wiki" in parentheses I meant that I'd write something up for internal use - a sticky post to help welcome new people here.  I don't know if the real wikipedia would accept an article on something as focussed as an enthusiast group, but it wouldn't hurt to try.

Another sticky post we should get together and work on would be a buyer's guide.  That post, if properly titled probably will drive new members to the site as that information is invaluable.

A third might be wheel and tire fitment, as these questions come up frequently and it would be nice to combine all the information into one thread.

If someone wants to PM or email me with the basic information about the forum and its formation days, I'll draft the "about the forum" page for people to review and edit. 

If it is alright, may I go ahead and post a poll so we can get some demographics about member locations etc?  It would seem a good way to get a snapshot of who uses the forum, and where they live.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: WGB on 17 October 2012, 08:15 AM
Great to see Oscar "The Ambo from Riverina" posting again.

Bill
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 17 October 2012, 06:32 PM
Its a bit like a reunion thread in here lol

And yep Oscars D jet threads led me to discover that D jet is nothing to be scared of and IMO its easier than K jet to diagnose and repair.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: oscar on 20 October 2012, 01:28 AM
Hehe. Haven't touched k-jet myself so I prefer to stay out of those discussions......most of the time.

Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 20 October 2012, 04:16 AM
Maybe its my more than passing familiarity with Modern EFI systems that gave me a leg up with the D jet.

Injection that utilises a common rail to each side and injectors that are electrically fired with the only real twist being the Manifold pressure is used to sort the air/fuel ratio.

But the Throttle body and TPS is identical as is the injection itself, all the rest is pure Bosch but not too hard to unnerstan.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: thysonsacclaim on 20 October 2012, 12:10 PM
OMG Oscar!


It's aliiiiiiiiiiiive!


Missed your posts mate!
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: oscar on 24 October 2012, 04:48 PM
Cheers Adam.  8) Not much to report though.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 21 December 2012, 09:06 PM
Just a few interesting Statistics I recently found on W116.org which go a long way to explainign why this site seems to work so well.

Having been involved in this sort of thing professionally and privately I can say that these figures are truly astounding.


Total Members:    1,794

Total Posts:        91,475

Total Topics:         9,201


The average user visit count per day is between 19 and 30 plus,


Average registrations per day:    1.78

Average posts per day:    38.38 which is why the board is so lively and a great stat,
Average topics per day:    3.60   which is also a good thing.


Heres the gold though,


Mechanicals has  34,210 posts
Test Drive has  15,487 and Interiors & Exteriors 14,722  which means we are all working on our cars or helping others to perfect their cars.

Neatly summed up it means that we are a community and id suggest a close community of helpful enthusiasts.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 21 December 2012, 09:10 PM
Heres a scary Stat..................

Ever wonder how you manage to lose time on here? (I do)

Most Time Online

oscar                   96d 12h 51m

Major Tom 6.9     88d 19h 32m

s class                 75d 21h 42m

koan                    71d 10h 21m

TJ 450                  67d 16h 40m

13B                      61d 15h 57m

Des                      53d 12h 6m

116Benz              49d 16h 2m

Andrew280SEL    37d 11h 51m

Mforcer                32d 3m
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 21 December 2012, 09:11 PM
BTW Stats available here.

http://forum.w116.org/stats/
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: TJ 450 on 21 December 2012, 10:38 PM
That is quite amazing indeed,

I like the fact that when you search the "Mechanicals" section, what you want is usually there.

Tim

Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: djenka018 on 21 December 2012, 11:27 PM
Stats are misleading.
I never shut down my laptop and I leave it on for days with some pages open inclusive of the org (yes, you guessed it right: I run Linux, not Windows ;))

As someone who just observed this site for long but only recently joined actively and someone who visited nearly every www 70's Mercedes forum in more than just English language, I can safely conclude that w116.org does have moderate activity on topic (far from dead, like most others) and, most important, majority of topics are not on three least helpful subjects: where to get common parts - again and again, how to pimp and how its pimped, what radio/speakers/amp/woofer/tweeter etc.

My observations:
Is it helpful? Yes (4/5)
Abundance of spotless knowledge? Better than most (3.5/5)
Provides solution or solution pathway? Yes (5/5)
Are there people wiling to help? Plenty (4/5)
Is it welcoming? Yes (6/5)

For comparison, Benzworld 116 forum is dead past pimping and radioing and it's only clinically alive. BW's 107 forum may provide faster or more in-depth answers for many a problems but given that w116 has significantly smaller members database, it stacks up fairly high.

So... well done.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 22 December 2012, 01:25 AM
Djenka I think the cookies expire after 3 or 4 hours mate because i have been pulled away in the middle of a post and had to reload the page to post as it had timed out so its fairly good re times I suspect.

But yeah this place is lively which draws me back and keeps me here plus the sense of community is strong.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: djenka018 on 22 December 2012, 02:33 AM
All the same for me personally, Tony. Just trying to point towards flaws of any statistics.

More of the time better the forum.

Open community vs. close circle of friends what makes it work.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 22 December 2012, 02:38 AM
Yep I reckon you are bang on there!

Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: s class on 22 December 2012, 06:11 AM
Quote from: Tony66_au on 21 December 2012, 09:10 PM
Heres a scary Stat..................

Ever wonder how you manage to lose time on here? (I do)

Most Time Online

oscar                   96d 12h 51m

Major Tom 6.9     88d 19h 32m

s class                 75d 21h 42m

koan                    71d 10h 21m

TJ 450                  67d 16h 40m

13B                      61d 15h 57m

Des                      53d 12h 6m

116Benz              49d 16h 2m

Andrew280SEL    37d 11h 51m

Mforcer                32d 3m

Yes, but those of us high up the list have been members for 5+ years. 
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: djenka018 on 22 December 2012, 06:44 AM
^ ^ ^ ^

Active time per day could be more indicative but that brings another problem: does anyone want to know how much time per day they really spend on forums?
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 22 December 2012, 08:05 AM
I used to run software that tracked my every move for billing purposes and it was amusing to see exactly how much time Id spend and where so sure, Id like to know.

And if I spent too much time then id just disappear for a month or so and hand the file off to a colleague.

I firmly believe that Social networking sites should have built in meters as a check and balance feature.
Title: Re: The Org History!
Post by: Tony66_au on 22 December 2012, 08:06 AM
Quote from: s class on 22 December 2012, 06:11 AM
Quote from: Tony66_au on 21 December 2012, 09:10 PM
Heres a scary Stat..................

Ever wonder how you manage to lose time on here? (I do)

Most Time Online

oscar                   96d 12h 51m

Major Tom 6.9     88d 19h 32m

s class                 75d 21h 42m

koan                    71d 10h 21m

TJ 450                  67d 16h 40m

13B                      61d 15h 57m

Des                      53d 12h 6m

116Benz              49d 16h 2m

Andrew280SEL    37d 11h 51m

Mforcer                32d 3m

Yes, but those of us high up the list have been members for 5+ years. 

True and it wasn't a criticism but an observation.