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Question: PICK 2 Badge designs you'd buy
Option 1: A votes: 1
Option 2: B votes: 1
Option 3: C votes: 0
Option 4: D votes: 0
Option 5: E votes: 0
Option 6: F votes: 0
Option 7: G votes: 3
Option 8: H votes: 10
Option 9: I votes: 0
Option 10: J votes: 0
Option 11: K votes: 0
Option 12: L votes: 2
Option 13: M votes: 3
Option 14: N votes: 0
Option 15: O votes: 1
Option 16: P votes: 4
Option 17: Q votes: 0
Option 18: R votes: 2
Option 19: S votes: 6
Option 20: T votes: 15
Title: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: oscar on 11 February 2007, 09:33 PM
(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8473/borat27e0fd9cnx7.th.jpg) (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=borat27e0fd9cnx7.jpg)

Click here for video instructions by Borat (http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8308-1/MOL004_ASF.WMV)

Jagshemash

Is now time for the voting yes not? 


This could be so much easier if I wasn't easily distracted :D Anyway. How does this sound?


Pick two of your most favourite badge designs. How easy was that.

Looking for a result, you'll have to wait 14 days.  :o  :o
Aren't I a bastard. ;D  It may get shortened but I wanted to make sure those that are on vacation or deciding late get a chance to cast a vote without being influenced by the count.You may change your mind before poll closes I think.

After this poll and the wording poll, no mucking about.  The most popular badges should be polled again. A very quick single vote, badge chosen, wording chosen, then see how many interested.


Here's your choices again;  Once again, Keep in mind the draft nature of the drawings and everything else that was said in the 10 other pages.  Cheers.


A(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8175-2/a.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/a.jpg.html)  B(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8179-2/b.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/b.jpg.html)  C(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8182-2/c.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/c.jpg.html)  D(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8184-2/d.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/d.jpg.html)
E(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8214-2/e.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/e.jpg.html)  F(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8186-2/f.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/f.jpg.html)  G(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8188-2/g.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/g.jpg.html)  H(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8190-2/h.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/h.jpg.html)
I  (http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8192-2/i.jpg)   (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/i.jpg.html)  J(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8194-2/j.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/j.jpg.html)  K(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8196-2/k.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/k.jpg.html)  L(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8357-2/Badge-Test01L.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/Badge-Test01L.jpg.html)
M(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8200-2/m.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/m.jpg.html)  N(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8202-2/n.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/n.jpg.html)  O(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8204-2/o.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/o.jpg.html)  P(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8206-2/p.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/p.jpg.html)
Q(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8208-2/q.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/q.jpg.html)  R(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8211-2/r.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/r.jpg.html)  S(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8223-2/Badge-Test0aclear.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/Badge-Test0aclear.jpg.html)   T(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8247-2/Badge-Test0acleargold+_Medium_.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/Badge-Test0acleargold+_Medium_.jpg.html)
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: Mforcer on 12 February 2007, 12:15 AM
I still think that all the car images are far too detailed and an outline image similar to this sites logo is necessary for the small scale on a badge.
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: oscar on 12 February 2007, 01:04 AM
Quote from: Michel on 12 February 2007, 12:07 AM
Can We Add One More Option?
I recall asking for that..
And that is:

Badge L (as you see it, colors and all) with the car from P (better outline)

Oh sheeeet! I do remember you asking and that's when I came up with Q. Oooahh! My mistake

I shall work on it


Mforcer, I agree mostly ;)

This issue fits in the -draft nature of the drawings and everything else that was said in the 10 other pages- quote from my first post  :) There's so many points people raised I couldn't list them all.  But I tend to agree with Michel too, believing that photoetching or lasers can produce good detail.  I also imagine metallic lines between detail and colour boundaries much like our radiator badges.  This will also limit detail.

For the moment though, take the car images as general representations of a w116 shape. Whatever badge gets selected, with or without car, still needs to be drawn properly. 
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: Mforcer on 12 February 2007, 01:11 AM
I have taken the image as a general representation :) My only concern is that from a distance the car on the badge will be unclear.

I do think it is fantastic work on the badges so far!
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: oscar on 12 February 2007, 01:22 AM
Quote from: Mforcer on 12 February 2007, 01:11 AM
My only concern is that from a distance the car on the badge will be unclear.

That's fair enough, only bold lines and basic detail will show the 116 shape from a few feet back. That may be the best.  Contrast will come into it as well.  When I put them all together I stood back from the screen looking at the thumbnails trying to evaluate their appearance.  But I reckon I could spot a w116 if it was parked on the International Space Station.

EDIT:

Michel!! After rereading your request, I simply added P's car to L.  So now L has changed rather than adding a new badge. It makes a big difference. One could assume that any badges with cars would have a similar appearnce to this type of outline.  Cheers.

BTW can anyone else see the results.  I couldn't see them before but now I can. I didn't want to know the tally until the end.  I'll have to stop looking.
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: oscar on 12 February 2007, 07:30 AM
how the bloody hell.... :o  I thought  I set the results to be shown after the poll finished ??? Did someone change it or did I just stuff up >:(.

Oh well, should I run a poll to see if I should make the results private again. :-\ ::)
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: WGB on 12 February 2007, 07:55 AM
I changed my vote - because Superman told me.

Bill
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: Mforcer on 12 February 2007, 05:24 PM
Quote from: oscar on 12 February 2007, 07:30 AM
how the bloody hell.... :o  I thought  I set the results to be shown after the poll finished ??? Did someone change it or did I just stuff up >:(.

Oh well, should I run a poll to see if I should make the results private again. :-\ ::)

That was me Admin. Should we ask Admin to change it back?
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: oscar on 12 February 2007, 05:34 PM
Nah.  Too many have seen it now to change.  We'll leave it transparent.
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: koan on 12 February 2007, 06:06 PM
Quote from: Patrick Bateman on 12 February 2007, 07:12 AM

I look at the vote results, and I'm in shock, shame on you, never have I seen such a group disagree on something so simple, so much ....  :P


Patrick. it's a shame you didn't submit a design incorporating the star and circle, and featuring a pair of humongous kadungas, it would have got my vote :)

koan
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: 500eguy on 17 February 2007, 04:22 AM
These badges look good:)
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: oscar on 17 February 2007, 08:49 AM
A(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8175-2/a.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/a.jpg.html)  B(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8179-2/b.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/b.jpg.html)  C(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8182-2/c.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/c.jpg.html)  D(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8184-2/d.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/d.jpg.html)
E(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8214-2/e.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/e.jpg.html)  F(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8186-2/f.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/f.jpg.html)  G(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8188-2/g.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/g.jpg.html)  H(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8190-2/h.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/h.jpg.html)
I  (http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8192-2/i.jpg)   (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/i.jpg.html)  J(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8194-2/j.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/j.jpg.html)  K(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8196-2/k.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/k.jpg.html)  L(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8357-2/Badge-Test01L.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/Badge-Test01L.jpg.html)
M(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8200-2/m.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/m.jpg.html)  N(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8202-2/n.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/n.jpg.html)  O(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8204-2/o.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/o.jpg.html)  P(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8206-2/p.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/p.jpg.html)
Q(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8208-2/q.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/q.jpg.html)  R(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8211-2/r.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/r.jpg.html)  S(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8223-2/Badge-Test0aclear.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/Badge-Test0aclear.jpg.html)   T(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8421-2/Badge-Test0acleargold1+_Medium_.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/Badge-Test0acleargold1+_Medium_.jpg.html)


Hi people,

On to a new page and half way thru the poll, we've got 20 voters.   With a few double orders, I'd say a minimum 25 order placement is very likely.  ;D

Three things I'd like to mention. 

From the moment T was first posted in the orignal grill badge thread, it was envisioned that borders and writing would appear in gold/brass colour too.  After playing with photoshop I managed to colour the writing in so I've changed that badge to reflect this. It's more representative of how the badge will look.  I still can't draw an inner and outer brass coloured rings which will bound the blue section.  All badges are supposed to have such borders and whilst Andrew drew them in originally, my prowess at photoshopping managed to obliterate them.

Secondly, whilst learning a few more tricks in photoshop, inspired by Andrew's latest 116 creations and observing the two most popular badges I came up with another combining both.  I voted for H and T but was a bit worried that there may not be enough contrast for the 116 shape to be visible in H so I applied the 116 shape and colour to T.  My issues with including it in the poll are:

-I'm not to sure that it would be ethical to be included in the poll at this stage.
-I think part of the reason people have voted for T, and S for that matter, is that apart from looking good most of these voters don't want the 116 shape included.
-My last issue is technical.  With dimples in the background, I'm not sure how the 116 shape and lines will transfer from artwork to the real badge.

The third thing I'd like to mention is that I'm going to contact the badgemaker Arnie Brown (http://www.arniebrown.com/badges.htm) to get some input on the technical issues on the leading badges so far, pricing, delivery and payment options etc.

FWIW, here's my latest conglomeration based on the popularity of H and T
Please give some feedback on whether I should just forget about it, play fair and leave the poll alone - or - is it worth replacing one of the nill vote badges with this one.  Cheers, Simon.

(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/8423-2/Badge-Test0acleargold12.jpg) (http://gallery.w116.org/v/garage/oscars/grill+badge/Badge-Test0acleargold12.jpg.html)

Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: Tomi on 17 February 2007, 10:18 AM
hello fellows,
nice badges. I voted for the last 2. I'm not in favor of the ones that have the german flag, for some reason that does not apeal. Also the car from the side looks nice, but not original, wrong tire profile and looks tuned or lowered.
The simple ones are best.
well I would buy one anyway.
regards, Tomi
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: oscar on 17 February 2007, 05:38 PM
26th Feb it closes,

Realistically, we're still a fair few weeks away, maybe two months away from getting the final badge.

HoWeVeR!!!

Wheels are in motion behind the scenes.   I received an email from Arnie Brown today.  I sent a few pics of MB badges with dimples and the leading badges in the poll to get some technical advice like, whether the dimples can be reproduced, plus a few other q's on payment, pricing and shipping.  I'm expecting more news next week.

Re my latest badge.  I like your thoughts Tomi.  Whilst I like the car, T is growing on me.  So it'll stay put for the moment.



On a humourous note;  I thought to myself, we could do a commemorative badge next year that would have more appeal. 

25 years since the first W116 was built 1973-2008 ::)
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: Mforcer on 17 February 2007, 06:45 PM
Quote from: oscar on 17 February 2007, 05:38 PM
On a humourous note;  I thought to myself, we could do a commemorative badge next year that would have more appeal. 

25 years since the first W116 was built 1973-2008 ::)

I thought my car was 30 years old this year :P
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: oscar on 17 February 2007, 08:33 PM
Quote from: Mforcer on 17 February 2007, 06:45 PM
Quote from: oscar on 17 February 2007, 05:38 PM
On a humourous note;  I thought to myself, we could do a commemorative badge next year that would have more appeal. 

25 years since the first W116 was built 1973-2008 ::)

I thought my car was 30 years old this year :P

Exactly!! My arithmetic is none too good. :D
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: Des on 18 February 2007, 02:18 AM
I especially like G and T but I think they are all very nice and would be happy to wear any of these on my 6.9

Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: s class on 19 February 2007, 04:36 AM
Oscar, you last blend of H and T is really nice.  But that could be because H and T were my two votes, and I wouldn't want to pick between them.

Ryan
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: Mforcer on 20 February 2007, 01:06 AM
Has everyone that is interested in a badge voted yet? Does everyone realise that they can change their vote at any time depending on the influence of others? ;)
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: oscar on 23 February 2007, 06:29 AM
Hey guys!!!

We reached 25.

Thought I'd ask a few friends what they thought -

Fonz?

EYHHHH!!!
(http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/5576/fonzie5me.jpg)


Tigger?

(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1705/c20tiger20thumbs20up20cht8.th.jpg) (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c20tiger20thumbs20up20cht8.jpg)


Mav'?

(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5097/thumbsupiioil16x20d4bb1fq6.th.jpg) (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thumbsupiioil16x20d4bb1fq6.jpg)



How about you Arnie?

A-r-m   egzyted!
(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9156/thumbsupd50bd92dw7.th.jpg) (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thumbsupd50bd92dw7.jpg)


So there you have it.  Everyone's happy ;D ;D ;D.  3 days to go.  Still waiting to hear back from Arnie. (not schwarznegger). Arnie Brown, the badgemaker. ;)  Will let you lot know what I know when I know it.

*****Remember, top badges (most likely T, H and S go into a poll for one week with top pick being the winner.  We have time, and I said this in the original post for the poll.  One more poll wont hurt.


Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: Mforcer on 26 February 2007, 03:03 PM
Do we need a second poll with the preferred two badges? Or is T 'it' :)
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: oscar on 27 February 2007, 06:55 AM
Hi guys,
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner.

Shall we just say T and be done with it??

Would anyone object?
Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: koan on 27 February 2007, 03:48 PM
Quote from: oscar on 27 February 2007, 06:55 AM

Shall we just say T and be done with it??


No, I don't think we should! The idea was to do it in two rounds and I we should stick with that.

Anything else changing the rules on the fly (which only governments are allowed to do) and it means all those who voted for something other than the top 2 or 3 are ignored, I believe they should have a say in the final choice.

If my counting is correct 48 people voted, 33 of them voted for something other than T.

koan

Title: Re: POLL: Grill Badge
Post by: oscar on 27 February 2007, 04:19 PM
You're right koan. Should stick to original plan.  H S and T are three different badges and I've put them up in this new poll.  http://forum.w116.org/the-org/final-poll-grill-badge/0/ (http://forum.w116.org/the-org/final-poll-grill-badge/0/)

My apologies to anyone who felt the same, I was getting lazy there for a moment after reading all the posts I'd missed whilst I was away, plus wanting to do some wrenching thru the night, which I did and now I'm buggered.   :)