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Title: Very expensive 6.9
Post by: Max-NL on 03 October 2018, 03:52 PM
Found this very nice and vey expensive 6.9 for sale at one of the dutch classic/youngtimer dealers : https://www.autoleitner.nl/en/index/cars-for-sale/1536612147-1977-7-450-sel-6-9-w116-for-sale (https://www.autoleitner.nl/en/index/cars-for-sale/1536612147-1977-7-450-sel-6-9-w116-for-sale)

Rough translation of the description:
"At the time delivered via Emil Frey S.A. in Geneva to the Emir of Qatar for his villa. Mainly used for rides between Geneva and Paris in which the Emir had another residence. After a coup in 1995 in his country by his son, while the Emir was in France, the 450 SEL 6.9 was placed under the private collection of the Emir and was cherished. We bought the Mercedes in 2010 and sold it to a Mercedes collector here in The Netherlands. What's special about this car are the rear curtains and the Becker fridge in the trunk. The state of this example is exceptionally good! Personally the nicest 6.9 we have ever seen. From front to rear in impeccable and original condition!"
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Post by: Harv on 03 October 2018, 04:25 PM
Yessss..

(https://www.autoleitner.nl/assets/uploades/DSC_6046_(Large).JPG)
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Post by: rumb on 03 October 2018, 05:46 PM
And it is still missing the chin spoiler  :o
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Post by: slfan on 03 October 2018, 07:32 PM

Nice interior.
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Post by: floyd111 on 03 October 2018, 08:49 PM
For that money I want a working car phone, not just a fridge!.  8)
Bloody fridge.. when will I ever find one that does not cost 3000usd!
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Post by: robertd on 04 October 2018, 04:54 AM
love it
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Post by: ptashek on 04 October 2018, 08:42 AM
Nice example... yet not a single pic of the underside! When will those sales people learn that the suspension, drive train and underbody are a vital part of the story?

Considering restoration costs, the asking price isn't actually as ridiculous as it may seem at first. Provided there's zero work required on the car.

Whoever buys it, I just hope they'll drive it. It's a waste otherwise :)
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Post by: daantjie on 04 October 2018, 09:42 AM
Man that velour with the black paint, I am drooling over here ;D

Whenever I see velour in a Benz I think of this clip, most Yanks think a Cadillac is like a Benz, ha-ha-ha, nope:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nc42tliHDE

Title: Re: Very expensive 6.9
Post by: floyd111 on 04 October 2018, 05:00 PM
It seems a perfect car with a price that actually reflects a full resto's cost/value, and therefore it is insane, unheard of in our segment of the market. I second that statement on the interior. Breathtaking, the ultimate business car of the era. This is about as great a combi one could have chosen back when, in a W116. But, wouldn't you be afraid to start using those seats in fear of long-overdue wear and tear? Or are there now alternatives for those with worn velours covers?
Title: Re: Very expensive 6.9
Post by: Randys01 on 06 October 2018, 04:24 AM
Holy Toledo Batman.....what a rippa?  Isn't it just drop dead gorgeous?! However, how achievable is that asking price? That's 150000 dollars plus in my part of the world. They were only 80K when new!.  yes I know that was a long time ago but.....What ever it fetches will surely set a new bar?
Title: Re: Very expensive 6.9
Post by: ptashek on 06 October 2018, 09:17 AM
Quote from: Randys01 on 06 October 2018, 04:24 AM
how achievable is that asking price

In Europe? Unlikely.
Looking at some of the latest auctions, they'll be lucky getting maybe 60-70k EUR for it, provided it is indeed totally mint.

This one recently sold for just 18k EUR - sure, going by pictures alone and the video, it's not in the same class.
https://themarket.co.uk/listings/mercedes-benz/450sel-69/ba7cf075-21f8-4940-a933-9d724e6ed9e3?status=preview

On the other hand, this mint and far more unique example sold fo less than 80k EUR a year ago, with a 90k estimate:
https://www.artcurial.com/en/lot-1980-mercedes-benz-450-sel-69l-blindee-separation-chauffeur-3308-36
Title: Re: Very expensive 6.9
Post by: nathan on 06 October 2018, 11:01 AM
magnificent vehicle. looks great
of interest Max, no suspension blocks.  its constantly noted they were standard but even in ridiculously good cars like this, where are they? they aren't in the wheel wells, they aren't with the spare - are they lost? unlikely, so were they never there??
Title: Re: Very expensive 6.9
Post by: Max-NL on 06 October 2018, 11:28 AM
While there are very few 6.9's in this condition which makes comparing it hard, I doubt it'll go for the asking price. It's just too high for the European market (for now at least).But that's just my opinion.

Nathan, it looks like the car has indeed no suspension blocks. To be honest I think I have never seen an 6.9 ad with blocks. When we bought #140 it didn't come with the blocks. It's a shame I can't ask the first owner if it came with them or not, but maybe the second owners remembers if they came with it.
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Post by: oversize on 06 October 2018, 11:07 PM
I seriously doubt they were ever supplied with the cars when first delivered. Otherwise there'd be an empty moulded container somewhere in the cars, just like the first aid kits...
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Post by: 6.9original on 07 October 2018, 06:10 AM
The Qatari car is absolutely beautiful.
Regarding the suspension blocks, most dealers discarded them after the car was shipped with them inserted.
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Post by: nathan on 07 October 2018, 09:34 AM
I disagree they weren't supplied with the cars, it just doesn't make sense. its a compulsory safety piece and the manual shows how to use them.  I agree you would have thought there would be some sort of container for them. its very odd but out of hundreds of 6.9s in Australia Ive recorded, probably less than 20 have the blocks still (I understand they would be very easy to lose!)
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Post by: marku on 07 October 2018, 10:46 AM
Incredible asking price but here is one more affordable.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1979-Mercedes-Benz-W116-450SEL-6-9-Unique-example-Running-order-Full-respray/192680047067?hash=item2cdca031db:g:lA4AAOSwFIRbt2dZ
Title: Re: Very expensive 6.9
Post by: daantjie on 07 October 2018, 12:15 PM
Quote from: marku on 07 October 2018, 10:46 AM
Incredible asking price but here is one more affordable.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1979-Mercedes-Benz-W116-450SEL-6-9-Unique-example-Running-order-Full-respray/192680047067?hash=item2cdca031db:g:lA4AAOSwFIRbt2dZ

Why ruin a perfectly great MB Interior :o?  Hard no for me on that one.
Title: Re: Very expensive 6.9
Post by: rumb on 07 October 2018, 03:01 PM
Very odd interior, color is off and even the seat patterns.
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Post by: Randys01 on 07 October 2018, 08:35 PM
oooohhh?!!!!!
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Post by: TJ 450 on 08 October 2018, 01:00 AM
It's the same deal with the earlier air suspension cars. They had a pair of buffers for the front lower wishbones each, and a pair of buffers that fit between the rear axle and bump stops at the rear. Again, I suspect it will probably remain a mystery as to whether they came standard with the cars or not, although as Nathan says it would be a very useful thing should something fail.

Tim
Title: Re: Very expensive 6.9
Post by: floyd111 on 08 October 2018, 03:10 AM
Quote from: daantjie on 07 October 2018, 12:15 PM
Quote from: marku on 07 October 2018, 10:46 AM
Incredible asking price but here is one more affordable.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1979-Mercedes-Benz-W116-450SEL-6-9-Unique-example-Running-order-Full-respray/192680047067?hash=item2cdca031db:g:lA4AAOSwFIRbt2dZ

Why ruin a perfectly great MB Interior :o?  Hard no for me on that one.

Shoot me, but I am kind of hot for this one. Out with all the originality, no doubt, but this is a pretty lush interior.
Title: Re: Very expensive 6.9
Post by: nathan on 08 October 2018, 08:44 AM
looks like someone just ripped out a rolls interior and tacked it on. seats are too wide and I imagine dont slide forward!
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Post by: floyd111 on 08 October 2018, 05:41 PM
The chairs, yes, it's all mad, but imagine the work that went in the door panels..
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Post by: rumb on 08 October 2018, 08:00 PM
I just noticed the front footwell side panels are missing as are the front seat hinge covers.
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Post by: oversize on 08 October 2018, 10:11 PM
The colour choice for the carpet is terrible and personally I would've selected electric seats to replace the standard ones, but I can see what the owner was trying to achieve. It's always difficult when straying from original features and it usually separates buyers into love and hate. Not a great idea to divide the market when your trying to sell. Different if u intend to keep it for decades....

The 6.9s original interior did not reflex its status in the MB range, however I suspect they wanted to distance it from the 600 which had power everything.
Title: Re: Very expensive 6.9
Post by: oversize on 08 October 2018, 10:16 PM
Quote from: TJ 450 on 08 October 2018, 01:00 AM
It's the same deal with the earlier air suspension cars. They had a pair of buffers for the front lower wishbones each, and a pair of buffers that fit between the rear axle and bump stops at the rear. Again, I suspect it will probably remain a mystery as to whether they came standard with the cars or not, although as Nathan says it would be a very useful thing should something fail.

Tim

Sounds to me like it was up to individual dealer policy whether to chuck them in the boot during the delivery process, or chuck them in the bin!
Seems obvious what they should've done now...