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Title: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 03 December 2018, 11:35 PM
Hello there, greetings from germany  :) And sorry for my school-englisch  ;D

My Name is Daniel, 44 years old and a 450SE (build 1978) Owner since june 2017 with no K-Jet functionality, since August back on the german roads. Still lot of work to do but for me its a pleasure to see my old Mercedes going back to the status it deserves  ;D

And this is my 450SE

(https://116er.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Mercedes-Benz-W116-450SE-002.jpg)
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: ptashek on 04 December 2018, 01:22 AM
Hallo Daniel,

Ihr wird beide hier gut Zuhause sein ;)

How come it's a 1978 and has no K-Jet? Is therea story behind it?
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: rumb on 04 December 2018, 04:26 AM
Welcome, your car looks very nice!
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 04 December 2018, 05:19 AM

How come it's a 1978 and has no K-Jet? Is therea story behind it?

Of course my M117 has a K-Jet, but when i get the car, it doesn´t run because multiple problems ;-) it was a lot of work & lot to learn, but since August 2017 it runs very well again :) 
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: daantjie on 04 December 2018, 07:29 AM
Welcome, yes very nice colour and the stance is great!
So it sounds like you went to electronic fuel injection on your car?
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: Guru on 04 December 2018, 10:35 AM
Hi Daniel

Yes, great stance indeed. Would love to replicate on my 450SEL. Can you please tell me what your suspension modifications were and wheel/tyre combination you chose? Are there any limitations, ie tyre rub, suspension bottoming out quickly?

Sieht Klasse aus. Wuerde ich gerne an meinem 450SEL nachvollziehen. Kannst Du mir bitte verraten welche Modifikationen an der Federung vorgenommen wurden und welche Raeder/Reifen drauf sind? Giebts irgenwelche Einschraenkungen, wie Reifen reiben an den Waenden oder Federung schlaegt schnell auf?

Much appreciated
Chris
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: Peter on 04 December 2018, 03:01 PM
Hi Daniel and welcome, great looking 116  ;D just the right stance on the road.
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 04 December 2018, 10:36 PM
Hello again or as we say here..  : Moin!

 :D

Ok, let me answer the questions...

K-Jetronic : my W116 still have the mechanic KA-Jetronic but when i bought the car, the K-Jet won´t run, so i invest time&money to bring it back to life, a big help was http://www.ferrari400parts.com/ , who rebuild & test my WUR. i changed and/or clean a lot of parts, now the engine runs well again.

Rims : the rims are from "ACT", a old german brand that doesnt exist anymore. At this time, the rims are at a local wheel-specialsist to add some bling  8) Dimensions are front 8,5x16 and rear 9,5x16

Wheels : front 225/50R16 , rear 245/45R16

Coil springs : i have no information about that, i guess some tuning coils from the 80s

You have to drive safely but in the use, there are no problems with the suspension, i dont drive very fast (there is no reason for the old guy, lol ) and i use only streets in good conditions without speed bumps (very rare where i live)

i inserted a liitle bit of carhifi (2 amps and a DSP), and a front subwoofer with 2x 8" Arc Audio Subs, the sub is extracted in a few seconds so a girl with long legs can sit comfortable beside me. lol  ;D

when you are interested in more pics and what i have done yet, feel free to visit my page at https://116er.de (german), you have to google translate it for more informations  ;)
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: irvine on 04 December 2018, 10:45 PM
HELLO at last.
I’ve been following you and your build on instagram. Your doing a great job so far, keep up the hard work.

Thanks for the rim info I had messaged on instagram.

Neil.
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 04 December 2018, 10:47 PM
HELLO at last.
I’ve been following you and your build on instagram. Your doing a great job so far, keep up the hard work.

Thanks for the rim info I had messaged on instagram.

Neil.

You´re welcome :)
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: floyd111 on 05 December 2018, 12:19 AM
Those seats are lush!. New covers or original? Neu ueberzogen oder nicht?
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 05 December 2018, 12:29 AM
Those seats are lush!. New covers or original? Neu ueberzogen oder nicht?

The photos show still the original velour seats but i applied seat-covers from german manufature SJS-Carstyling ( https://www.sjs-carstyling.com/sitzbezuege-w116 ) , but no good photos from the new look yet...
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 05 December 2018, 12:33 AM
If you interested in my W116, i got a little vid i made this summer...

https://youtu.be/9WaDJMWOGmo

And a few other photos of my 450SE

https://blechperlen.de/gallery/mercedes-benz-w116-1978/
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: Guru on 05 December 2018, 03:14 AM
Hi Daniel

Thanks much for the info on the wheels and tyres. If you ever find out about your suspension setup please share that info too.

Cheers
Chris
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 05 December 2018, 10:53 AM
Hi Daniel

Thanks much for the info on the wheels and tyres. If you ever find out about your suspension setup please share that info too.

Cheers
Chris

ok, i will inform you
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: floyd111 on 05 December 2018, 03:00 PM
So you changed from velours to MB-tex? I was hoping for a golden tip as to where to buy the original velours look-a-like!
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 05 December 2018, 10:16 PM
Sorry, i have no tip for you... the old velours was about 40 years old with holes & color changing through the sunlight.
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: Justin280s on 05 December 2018, 10:31 PM
Hi Daniel.  Very nice machine.
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: ptashek on 06 December 2018, 05:00 AM
I was hoping for a golden tip as to where to buy the original velours look-a-like!

As mentioned in the past, cabrio.de can make it for you in any colour you like - minimum order is a 100m roll, at 80EUR/m + VAT as of four years ago :D
Other than a custom run - forget about it. It's more of a unicorn than 6.9 SLS valves.
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: floyd111 on 06 December 2018, 05:16 AM
So they'll need 100x80 euros, is 8000 euros for the cloth. GAHH charges 35% of that for a full kit in MB tex. Cabrio will need more money to turn cloth into a kit as well, not? Let's say, another 4000 euros. Could they not make 5 complete kits for 12000 euros? Even 4 kits would be great. Should be easy to find takers for that. Where do you think the problem lies?
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: rumb on 06 December 2018, 06:58 AM
They currently have about a dozen fabrics in stock now, with 2 yard minimum.  you would have to inquire as to price.  I bet they would also sew the seats for you if you ask.

https://cabrio.de/en/interiors-khm/upholstery-material
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: ptashek on 06 December 2018, 08:54 AM
Where do you think the problem lies?

In finding enough people who are prepared to part with that kind of money for a set of seat covers in a specific colour.
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: floyd111 on 06 December 2018, 06:32 PM
They currently have about a dozen fabrics in stock now, with 2 yard minimum.  you would have to inquire as to price.  I bet they would also sew the seats for you if you ask.

https://cabrio.de/en/interiors-khm/upholstery-material

But not the velours we're trying to source, not?
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: floyd111 on 06 December 2018, 06:34 PM
 8)I have totally hijacked this thread.. Do you mind, honorary member from Germany?
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 07 December 2018, 02:54 AM
Got bass ?   8)

(http://116er.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Mercedes-W116-CarHifi-CarAudio-022.jpg)

When i am done (for now) with the rust, i rebuild my caraudio section in the trunk, at the moment it works but looks awful...



Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: AndreasF on 07 December 2018, 09:23 AM
Hi Daniel,

welcome to the forum, like your car!

Cheers  Andreas
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: floyd111 on 07 December 2018, 01:59 PM
Es gab indertat eine Stille im Forum, ein bestimmte Spannung, Sachen die ungesprochen blieben.. Muss wohl dieser Boombox gewesen sein! ;D
Jeder weiss wie unmoeglich es ist high-end Audio in ein W116 ein zu bauen. Deine Idee ist sicherlich neu, und funktioniert sicherlich gut, ist aber haesslich, und nicht freundlich entgegen Leute mit lange Beine. Der Kofferraum bietet besseres in dieses Beriech, bietet so aber keiner toller Sound. Ich habe ein JL-Audio 10-inch bass, flaches Modell, fuer die Erste Hilfe Box gekauft. Hoffe das das besser klingt als ein Boombox im Kofferraum. Bleiben da noch die mid-range Lautspraecher. Nicht einfach.

There was, however, a silence in the forum, a certain tension, things that were left unsaid .. Must have been this boombox! Everyone knows how impossible it is to build high-end audio into a W116 one. Your idea is certainly new, and certainly works well, but is ugly, and not friendly towards people with long legs. The trunk offers better solutions in this area, but so not a great sound. I bought a JL-Audio 10-inch bass, flat model, for the first aid box. Hope that sounds better than a boombox in the trunk. Then there still the mid-range sound speakers. Not easy.
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 09 December 2018, 10:31 AM
Es gab indertat eine Stille im Forum, ein bestimmte Spannung, Sachen die ungesprochen blieben.. Muss wohl dieser Boombox gewesen sein! ;D
Jeder weiss wie unmoeglich es ist high-end Audio in ein W116 ein zu bauen. Deine Idee ist sicherlich neu, und funktioniert sicherlich gut, ist aber haesslich, und nicht freundlich entgegen Leute mit lange Beine. Der Kofferraum bietet besseres in dieses Beriech, bietet so aber keiner toller Sound. Ich habe ein JL-Audio 10-inch bass, flaches Modell, fuer die Erste Hilfe Box gekauft. Hoffe das das besser klingt als ein Boombox im Kofferraum. Bleiben da noch die mid-range Lautspraecher. Nicht einfach.

There was, however, a silence in the forum, a certain tension, things that were left unsaid .. Must have been this boombox! Everyone knows how impossible it is to build high-end audio into a W116 one. Your idea is certainly new, and certainly works well, but is ugly, and not friendly towards people with long legs. The trunk offers better solutions in this area, but so not a great sound. I bought a JL-Audio 10-inch bass, flat model, for the first aid box. Hope that sounds better than a boombox in the trunk. Then there still the mid-range sound speakers. Not easy.

so maybe for some people the sub is ugly - the soundstage is perfect, no gap between sub and front system... form follow function  8) ;D

if someone with long legs (my wife perhaps) is cruising with me, the subwoofer is taken out within a few seconds and then its 100% original look with enough space for the legs :) the subwoofer i build was the first one in my w116, but i thing not the last. a few month ago i build a 4th order bandpass for the trunk, but the vent is very hard to build. maybe one day i design another solution for the two 8" subs...
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: floyd111 on 09 December 2018, 02:35 PM
I thought long and short about subs, but after seeing the naked chassis, all hope seems lost. More ideas would be great! I am struggling with the mids. The pioneer DEH I have needs 3 sets of speakers, and 3 amps for the system to work. I thought about placing the mids under the front chairs, in a slide-able custom-made wooden box with the same covering as the carpets. I have only done some rough measurements, and it's a tight one. Maybe you have looked into this before?
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 18 December 2018, 06:25 AM
Soon, a little audio upgrade in the trunk  :)

Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: floyd111 on 18 December 2018, 08:18 AM
When you're done, you could upload a sound/video clip of your system on Youtube. That bass in the front must sound really good.
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 30 December 2018, 01:55 AM
Trunk is almost done 😎
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: floyd111 on 01 January 2019, 03:06 PM
Damn, that looks like it could have been a stock-option in a parallel W116 universe. Great finish and choice of materials! Please let's have more pics of that trunk project. Just make sure you keep the rain out, or you'll end up electrifying birds expecting a Jacuzzi. ;)
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 02 January 2019, 02:11 AM
thanks  8) and happy new year everyone  :)

you can see a lot more photos from this installation in my blog-post at : https://116er.de/car-audio-2-0-teil-2-hifi-installation-im-w116/2019/
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: floyd111 on 02 January 2019, 03:40 PM
Wow.. great pics there.. Some will call it OCD, some will call it proper engineering, but this makes me want to wave a flag for everything German, bar modern diesel engines. You really captured the look that some rare W116 limo interior parts have. If anything, it's era-correct, haha! Nice that you weren't tempted by fancy modern-day finishes.With these "Zierleisten" around the amp-holes, the shell now looks like it was vinyl-extruded. Was there anything special about those black trim parts you used?
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 02 January 2019, 10:55 PM
The "Zierleisten" is a sheet of DIY plastic board (2mm thick, from the local diy market), cut with a carpet-cutter and glued to the wood :-)
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 22 January 2019, 10:25 PM
a little update from my 450SE

Build a custom cover for the trunk lid....
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 14 February 2019, 01:35 AM
The "new" trunk is almost done, now it looks fine to me  8)

(https://116er.de/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/W116-Heckklappe-Verkleidung-003-1024x768.jpg)
(https://116er.de/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/W116-Heckklappe-Verkleidung-005-1024x768.jpg)
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: Mick74 on 14 February 2019, 02:36 PM
Hi Daniel, I love your W116 and the modifications that you have made. I like the balance between original and modern and you have reminded me that I must upgrade my sound system, although I don't think that it will look as good as yours!
I hope to have that, and many other jobs done on my car before I bring it on a 4 week tour of Europe this summer, including a visit home to Stuttgart.
I wish you many happy years and miles with your 450SE
Title: Re: Greetings from germany
Post by: MyNameIsDaniel on 11 April 2019, 10:40 PM
a recent shot from my w116 - got my rims refurbished and now they fit the old mercedes perfectly  8) :)