well we had a thread recently on column shift on the w116, didn't we? I'm sure we did, although I can't find it.
anyway, here is some pictures of a column shift setup
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j27/nuts4benz/hans5.jpg)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j27/nuts4benz/hans6.jpg)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j27/nuts4benz/hans4.jpg)
Hi Des,
The thread about the column shift came up because of the little window in the instruments that is used to show the gear positions in a 116 with column shift and the outside temperature in a 126.
The discussion all came about as I thought it was the position of the outside temperature gauge but apparently this only started with 126's.
Bill
oooooo! :) I want a set of flag holders....I wonder if there is a part Number out there somewhere...??
I thought it would be quite cool to have some original flag poles on my 280SE, till I saw the price at over 800 Euros each!!
http://www.car-flags.eu/original-mercedes-flag-holder-p-820.html
Greg
LOL,that's a damn shame..... I know everyones W116 across the globe ;D
That beauty belongs to Hans ;)
Before he restored it
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c328/nutz4benz/hans2.jpg)
Ask Hans where he got the flag poles...........
I'll try and reach him but I haven't heard from him in about a month.Perhaps he's floating around at the French W116 site http://www.zwoachzig.de/index.htm
The president of the Mercedes Club of South Africa has recently bought a long wheel base W114 230.6 limo. It is black with red leather and has the original flag poles!! It used to belong to the King of Lesotho.
Dauie ? spellcheck
To truly christen my car "Bismarck" I really need some flags don't I? After all what battleship would be complete without some national colours flying,
before anyone has a sniggering remark, no i would not fly swastikas from my car
Lets make a w116.org flag!!!
Stumbled across another flag bearer. Check the foto bit too on this site. Very nice cars and a good collection of pentas, spoilers, rear curtains on a 6.9 and see that chromed m110. Very Nice!!! Click Here (http://www.dbw116ig.de/7302.html) links to - dbw116ig.de
(http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2519/1040474imgdad6992qt1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Oscar, the cars are great. Too bad mine isn't in such a good shape...
But... but.... I purchased an original AMG front spoiler for about US$40. ;D
Can't wait to spray it and put it in it's place...
Andrew
You WHAT!!!!
Next thing you'll tell me how you picked up 4 penta wheels for 20 bucks each :D
Good find Andrew. Let us know when you go to fit it if you need advice, although I think you'll work it out.
Thanks Oscar ;D
Well the fitting is no problem... just to see how it looks, I put it in place and after snaping it over the front panel it stood by itself... looking good. But it's black and the car gray-green so... paint!!!
PS: I would sure love some AMG penta's... 16" if possible ;D
Andrew in Romania
thanks for that link Oscar, hadn't seen that one before
look at this, this is what mine would look like, dressed up with the front spoiler and wheels!
(http://www.dbw116ig.de/mediac/400_0/media/105-0568_IMG.JPG)
Des, I went 116 googling last night, it's interesting what comes up. I checked out a few German sites but hadn't seen this one before either.
It never occured to me that pic was your colour. It looks fantastic doesn't it.
Does this mean you changed your mind on keeping the AMG items? :)
Quote from: Des on 21 February 2007, 05:20 AMi would not fly swastikas from my car
If you reversed them so that the arms flowed backwards they would not be Nazi emblems at all, but rather ancient Hindu, Jain, and Buddhist symbols for - amongst other things - peace, prosperity, and good luck. It has even appeared on US government propaganda, Native American items, and elsewhere in other cultures! Herr Schikelgrueber merely appropriated it. See http://www.reclaimtheswastika.com/photos/ (http://www.reclaimtheswastika.com/photos/) for more info.
I believe that the 'other' flag on Hans' blue 116 may be that of the city of Bremen; the car used to be that city's mayor's car.
Quote from: oscar on 23 February 2007, 06:31 PM
Does this mean you changed your mind on keeping the AMG items? :)
yep that's correct.
Would anyone out there with access to MB parts catalogs be able to give us the genuine part numbers for the flag poles please?
That's an interesting link OBH. I knew the nazi swastika was "borrowed" but didn't know how common it was. It's an unfortunate truth that regardless of it's origins, the swastika symbol and its variations will forever be remembered for all the wrong reasons. Pity copyright laws weren't tested back then. :-\
Quote from: Des on 24 February 2007, 02:55 AM
Would anyone out there with access to MB parts catalogs be able to give us the genuine part numbers for the flag poles please?
Des,
Was greg's link any help? They don't look the same. Actually, those ones look ugly. Sorry Greg. :( http://www.car-flags.eu/original-mercedes-flag-holder-p-820.html (http://www.car-flags.eu/original-mercedes-flag-holder-p-820.html).
It appears the chrome ones in all the examples people have posted look the same and are more dignified.
Quote from: oscar on 24 February 2007, 03:35 AM
It appears the chrome ones in all the examples people have posted look the same and are more dignified.
agreed yes, I like the style you posted above on the blue car, looks like a base that could be setup with a magnet, would want to drill holes in my car.
There was a flagpole discussion on the Ozbenz forum not that long ago, but I can't find it now on a quick search. John Green (MB Spares) claimed to have some in stock or available/obtainable.
Quote from: OzBenzHead on 24 February 2007, 05:53 PM
There was a flagpole discussion on the Ozbenz forum not that long ago, but I can't find it now on a quick search. John Green (MB Spares) claimed to have some in stock or available/obtainable.
I'll be at MBSpares on Monday (today) ::) or Tuesday and inquire about them. I hope they're the same. I don't think the 350 needs them but it sounds like there's enough interest here to clear out John's stock.
Oscar that would be great thanks, if you have a digital camera and could get us a picture, or two that would be appreciated, I know if he has them they would be in a box or wrapped up, but just an idea of what he has would be nice. thanks
I've got to have one - just the thing for flying the Banjospitz flag at a dog show!!! Just a little brag - Australian Champion Banjospitz Southern Bea won Best of Breed at the Canberra Royal on Saturday.
Bea is suggesting I get one with her picture!!!
BC
I have got to have one even more than the LHS mirror. Please Oscar please!! I can fly the South African flag and pretent I am a presidential want to be!!
Greg
By the way guys, you will find the official flag pole for the 116 in the 126 section of the EPC. For some reason it is not listed in the 116 section!!
Greg
Hi people, I'm back.
Mixed news on the flag holder. Not the same as the ones in the pics above. John said those are like a two piece arrangement whereby the round chrome plate is permanently attached to the side of the front fenders (holes are drilled or cutout). The flagholder itself has a rod at the end 90o to the flag. The holder's rod is inserted into the chromeplate and then rotated upwards to fix it in position. Kind of like a bayonet fitting I'd imagine.
The type that John has is like my crude drawing below. It was raining and I never thought about asking about a photo sorry. It's meant for a later model I think but looked pretty good on the crayford wagon IMO ;D. It's high quality, solid, thick and of course luverly chrome finish. To attach, you lift the bonnet/hood and screw it thru the holes to the fender. Much like how tall CB antennas are attached. You could possibly get away without drilling srew holes by using just one fender bolt as it fits snug against the fender. John just held it in place and closed the hood. The angles of the end of the bracket and the bevel of the bend in the holder's bracket matched the 116 curves and results in the flagholder standing upright. The only problem with this particular type of holder is it may sit a little high. A matter of perception. The bevel in the 90o bend in the holder's bracket parallels the fender but is separated by 20mm perhaps. That may be intentional, I don't know. Since the bracket is very thick, one would have to make sure the hood isn't off centre so it doesn't make contact when closing.
A very nice flag holder, not sure of price, didn't ask sorry. The tapered pole and the ball on top really show it off. Any q's just ask although I probably didn't ask enough q's whilst I was there. If you're interested in one contact John at MBSpares (http://www.mbspares.com.au/default.asp?d=18036). Actually, don't know how many he's got or even if they're for sale. :D Asking can't hurt I suppose.
(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/76/flagholderww9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/917/imgp1997smalljm3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Yeah I know,
At first I thought, because it wasn't the one people were after you guys wouldn't be interested. But whilst looking at it on the 116 wagon I liked it. It was only after we left I thought to myself - I wouldn't really want to drill holes in the side of the fender to have the other holders. Unless I had a collectable black 6.9 for show purposes only.
These bracket ones can be easily removed and reattached and can't be stolen unless the bonnet was open. They'd be ideal for attending events or going on a group drive (or just showing off). They're top quality and look great and I can't imagine they would be cheap. But we drive Mercedes, who cares about cost ;D They're not exactly clearance items and as I said, I'm not 100% sure they're for sale.
Can you imagine us in a speeding 116 motorcade with say the Gleaming Beauty up front with two flags. Not sure what type of flags. Two tie-dyed T-shirts will do. We'd be going too fast for anyone to notice what was printed on them.
Keep going Oscar... I think you are convincing me! ;)
Me too.......The idea appeals to the aspirant African despot in me!!
I have just sent John an email, and hopefully if he has time he will be able to respond to us all here with some further details and pricing, if available.
:)