:o Someone needs a girlfriend ;D
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Quote from: Patrick Bateman on 29 March 2007, 04:43 AM
they sure look beautiful
one can only imagine what all the engines in W116's looked like new. the use of shiny gold coloured metal is in abundance in all engine bays- its just covered with corrosion and grime.
They do look good, the owners don't need girlfriends...after doing that to the engine do they have anymore love to give?
But, I do agree with Patrick...they won't stay so shiny for so long.
It is admirable as to the work that went into those engines. I often think about doing that to my engine but realise 'out of sight, out of mind' is all too easy once the bonnet is closed. Perhaps if I spent more time under the bonnet getting my hands dirty...
We'll have to start a clean v8 thread. I'll start.
They're great pics nutz. I love a clean engine and can honestly see my 280 getting more attention and reaching the new look. Well I hope so. I tried to clean and polish up my holley carb when I took it off the 280. what a PITA job. It looks cleaner, but not new by any means. Boy it must take some elbow grease to remove every bit of oil, dirt and corrosion from an engine bay.
Here you go Michel ;D Some pics of a rebuilt m116. I wish they were bigger. I wish it was mine. Sold for about 3,500+ euros in Germany on ebay last year. M116 d jet
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And another one I have no idea who posted these or why it's on display. M116 d jet
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A k-jet M117?? I think
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They look good :)
Not to derail this thread so early (I am not going to be cleaning my engine any time soon :P) are they the stock exhaust headers on that k-jet M117 (500 or 560?)? Would they offer any benefits to the older M117 such as the 450?
What I find a bit odd is the polished up M-Bs for sale on ebay and elsewhere, the exteriors are all gleaming chrome and paint, the interiors look like new, then you get to engine compartment shot and it is absolutely filthy, like it's not been opened in the last 30 years - hardly a selling point.
koan
Quote from: oscar on 29 March 2007, 07:44 PM.
A k-jet M117?? I think
A KE Jet to be exact.
Black fuel distributor = K Jet
Metallic colored fuel distributor = KE Jet
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Quote from: Nutz on 29 March 2007, 11:28 PM
A KE Jet to be exact.
Black fuel distributor = K Jet
Metallic colored fuel distributor = KE Jet
Does that mean it's from a 126 nutz?? What size would you guess this is?? 420?? Things I noticed the Auto Trans is different to the other two engines above and leaves me thinking it's a real 4spd and what's it's suitability for a W116 V8 engine?
And the headers - as mforcer noticed. They're different and look tuned, sort of, in comparison.
Quote from: koan on 29 March 2007, 09:55 PM
What I find a bit odd is the polished up M-Bs for sale on ebay and elsewhere, the exteriors are all gleaming chrome and paint, the interiors look like new, then you get to engine compartment shot and it is absolutely filthy, like it's not been opened in the last 30 years - hardly a selling point.
koan
I agree. It's disappointing when people don't show the engine bay off as well. Makes you think the underside is unkept.
Quote from: koan on 29 March 2007, 09:55 PM
What I find a bit odd is the polished up M-Bs for sale on ebay and elsewhere, the exteriors are all gleaming chrome and paint, the interiors look like new, then you get to engine compartment shot and it is absolutely filthy, like it's not been opened in the last 30 years - hardly a selling point.
koan
I have noticed some people have no idea how to present a car when they want to sell it! All that is needed is to clean the car. It is so easy to steam clean the engine bay.
Greg
Quote from: oscar on 30 March 2007, 12:45 AM
Things I noticed the Auto Trans is different to the other two engines above and leaves me thinking it's a real 4spd and what's it's suitability for a W116 V8 engine?
I believe that the 126 auto transmissions have the same top gearing ratio and so would offer no major benefit. The older 3-speed as we have is meant to be more reliable too (at least not less reliable). Otherwise that is one change I would have made already.
The ratios are very similar for the 116 and the 126, except that the 126 4 speed has a much lower 1st gear, 3.68:1 compared to 2.3:1 for the 116. I think this is to help with the higher rear axle ratio of 2.82 for the 126, cf with the 3.07 for the 116.
The torque converter also has a higher multiplication factor of 2.5 to help with its higher first gear (3.2:1) cf the 126 converters 1.9 and lower (3.68:1) first gear.
In other words the 4 speed in the 116 would help you move off only fractionally faster as it normally takes off in 2nd gear, but if you used the diff from a 126 as well, you would get fractionally better acceleration performance when required, plus better economy.
theyre fantastic! i love the black one.
i love the M110. my next car will probably either a 123 280CE or a 126 280SE.
(and probably at the expense of the 450SEL, unless i can find myself a really big shed sometime soon)
but this will be a few years off, so dont flood me with offers for the 450 just yet :P
no, im retracting that mindless statement. i just took the 450 for a spin and gave it a boot full to clear out the city driving cobwebs. what? yeah, yeah ok, fine, a FEW boot fulls.
its just beautiful. looks like ill just have to find the extra space for a 280CE...
with the water restrictions here in brisbane at the moment, by the 10th april we wont be allowed to wash a car with a bucket let alone hose down the motor!
I'm starting a new thread about car storage
I think these engine photos should be classified as soft porn...why are engines soooo sexy????
Here's some more I had on file from mbgalerie. More like official photos rather then rebuilt engines. they make good references though.
In order from left to right then down.
- M110 carburetted, M116 d-jet
- M117 d-jet I think
- M100 k-jet. (with 4-wire igniton lead holders) Take note, they did exist even on a 6.9
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Why not build some underdrive pulleys?
bahnstormer,
you need to post some pics of your wagons...i so badly need a 123 wagon it isnt funny, even if my wife does beat me over the head !!
regards from wa
nathan
pics from the stuttgart museum, that sweet wagon had only 1800km on it!!
of all the 116s, why theyd put a 300sd in i was uncertain...they had the 6.3 in their (foreground wagen shot)
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If ever there is a worldwide w116 get together, surely that place has to be our mecca.
Hi Nathan,
you can see my wagons here in the W123 section of OZBENZ: http://forum.mbspares.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=3221
and theres a W116 wagon for sale in canberra at MBSpares heres a link: http://www.mbspares.com.au/default.asp?d=17854
Nice 123 collection!
do your wagons have those bloody sunroofs which you manually have to pull! come to think of it, did any of the wagons have electric roofs or was manual the only option?
mum used to have a 280TE, but i also like the 300TD even if it does take 7-8 miinutes to hit 100!
best regards
nathan
No, mine dont have sunroofs, but i wish they did, i like them.
the 123 wagons only had manual sunroofs. as the mechanism to open the roof is in the boot of the sedans and the ropey pulley bits run up the c-pillar apparently benz couldnt work out how to get it to work in their first wagon.
the 124 wagons got electric sunroofs, but i dunno where they put the mechanism.
theyre great cars, you can have lots of space, or 7 seats, and they handle really well too. they can be found pretty cheap, dont let a seller charge you too much because the wagons are worth more or are rare or something. you shouldnt have to pay more than $5k for a good one. mine were $800 and $1500. theyre tough cheap workhorses that live on the street and get serviced at home.