The Forum

Garage => Test Drive => Topic started by: nathan on 24 July 2017, 08:20 AM

Title: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 24 July 2017, 08:20 AM
although I've been keeping tabs on these for a while, we tend to just have individual posts on 6.9 sales at the time. might be worth putting them all in one post. so here it is, please upload pics (rather than links) to this site and some details such as price, site of sale, kms and any other info!

ill start with last weeks local hot topic. the one that went for 66k at auction! 77000km, looked ok - but I'm sure we could all be critical for that money!
sold at Shannons auction last week
anyway, here it is
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 24 July 2017, 08:24 AM
whilst on the Shannons auction site, there was this ronin from 2010. looks nice enough, 9500 looks a lot more enticing than 66k!  interesting brown on brown, even if it had the wrong steering wheel! looks like a euro with the oil cooler
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 24 July 2017, 08:29 AM
carpoint posting
blue on beige velour.
looks like Aussie with the engine but then has the velour seats? I know there are one or two Aussie cars with velour,  but they are very rare.
150,000km, asking 28000 at present.
Ben in Mt Eliza Victoria
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 24 July 2017, 08:35 AM
another current carpoint posting
39,500AUD
1979 ikon gold
240,000km
looks like chrome bundts?
Tamborine mountain, QLD
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 24 July 2017, 08:48 AM
and this one on gumtree at the moment.
1979 with 267,000km
$49,900!
notes has had 10s of 1000s spent on it.
looks tidy from pics.
says east Brisbane in QLD
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: TJ 450 on 24 July 2017, 10:00 AM
It's a real mixed bag looking at all those together. The big question is will these other more average ones sell. The recent Shannon's car does look like it has been well maintained, or at least it has that appearance. Overall though, these cars do look pretty good.

Tim
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: daantjie on 24 July 2017, 12:20 PM
Might be wrong but I really do think the Aussie market is an anomaly for sure.
As always it is a numbers game,  and for sure the fact that roughly 1/4 of all 6.9's "officially" made it to the US simply makes them not worth as much here in NA.  Plus as I have said before, even though you guys have the Holden fans and such Down under, it is a small fraction of the obsessiveness the Yanks have with their Detroit muscle, even though Detroit is dead and buried nowadays.  Baby boomers remembering the good ol' days in the US is driving the market for US steel they saw on the roads when they were kids.  Simple math really.  Not many Benzo's on US roads back then, you had to "buy American", remember 8) otherwise you were a communist ;D  Ring a bell with the new boss in the US :o..?
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: w116john on 24 July 2017, 05:27 PM
any idea why there is a check valve on the vacuum hose from the distributor of the car sold at shannons? the first car


Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: robertd on 24 July 2017, 06:03 PM
Hi Nathan

That Silver blue one with velour interior is the one I sold last January to a chap from Mt Eliza,
The funny thing is I originally bought it from another seller from Mt Eliza.

I,m not certain but I think it had more kms on it when I sold it.  I normally keep spotless records on any car I buy.

this one slipped through.

Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: floyd111 on 25 July 2017, 03:29 AM
These sheepskins like awesome with the parchment interior. I need to get myself some. Guess that's Australia is the best place to get them?
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 25 July 2017, 08:08 AM
Not this one again Daniel!
prices have definitely risen in Aus lately, but don't think we are the anomaly. UK, Europe and Au all command good prices.  I think the tide is turning in that its getting pretty hard to find good 6.9s anymore.  I wouldn't suggest Americans are more passionate about their own products, you should see what (I perceive) crap Aussies pay big money for - but thats sentiment as you say! If you think 230 6.9s made it to Au for a population of about 20 million, (I don't know the US figure?) if 4000 or so made it to the US for a population of about 300million the per capita ratio isn't too different.  There seems to have been some expensive ones in the US on other forums lately too - perhaps a US colleague would like to start the 6.9s for sale in the US to keep tabs on prices?! anyway, I don't see it as a bad thing as someone that owns a few but we will see what the market holds for the future.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Randys01 on 28 July 2017, 05:44 AM
The check valve is standard on at least Aus spec.   it dampens the enthusiasm of advancing the timing to meet emission controls. :-\
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: w116john on 28 July 2017, 07:52 AM
thank you very much, i have a habit of looking in that area of engine bays to see if the aav is depressed or not, i had never seen a check valve there before.

another piece of w116 info

john
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 07 August 2017, 09:53 AM
$54990 1979 156,000km in QLD.  this dealer seems to have a lot of tidy mercs over time.  euro import around time of purchase it seems. again, another low km high price car. the rubbish ones not making the advertising it seems
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: TJ 450 on 07 August 2017, 10:38 AM
Not bad,

That pretty much confirms it as the low km original type of car attracting the higher price.
I think the ones in poor condition would be mostly off the road by now and languishing in peoples yards etc., as seems to happen.

I reckon we might see these sorts of prices becoming the norm, assuming these cars actually sell, as they are definitely on the upward trend.

Tim
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 15 August 2017, 09:00 AM
1979 euro in victoria has popped up for 25k. low by recent prices! not sure if suspension is rogered as all pics in high position. they should get rid of that horrible steering wheel and gear shift wood. 225000km. carpoint
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: daantjie on 15 August 2017, 10:10 AM
Holy cow, I can kinda live with the wooden shifter handle, but that wooden steering wheel cover is hurting my eyes :o
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: rumb on 15 August 2017, 11:28 AM
Still has the washer hose connected incorrectly....

I have never seen a distributor cover?  is that  an AUS thing?

I realize some people really like sheepskin covers, but they should always be removed when trying to sell the car!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 16 August 2017, 05:54 AM
hi Rum,
good point I didn't spot that distrubutor cover!  this is not an Aussie car, it was an import. Aussie cars didn't have such covers, I wonder what the story was with it.

I agree Daan, that steering wheel wood is unfortunate. you would only realise how daft it was after you smash your teeth on it!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: robertd on 18 August 2017, 01:12 AM
I just checked the grey Euro on carsales they are showing a 116 033 Vin number, this should be 116 036 for a 6.9 funny business me thinks,.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: karmann_20v on 18 August 2017, 01:19 PM
Quote from: robertd on 18 August 2017, 01:12 AM
I just checked the grey Euro on carsales they are showing a 116 033 Vin number, this should be 116 036 for a 6.9 funny business me thinks,.

This is supported by what looks like zebrano wood, rather than walnut.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: TJ 450 on 18 August 2017, 10:02 PM
Hi Karmann_20v,

This is true for later 6.9s, although earlier ones (pre 77) came with either full Zebrano or Zebrano on the dash and the black console trim being the earliest.

You'd have to go and inspect the car to be certain I would say.

Regards,
Tim
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: karmann_20v on 18 August 2017, 11:06 PM
Thanks for the info, TJ. I did not know that.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 27 August 2017, 08:44 AM
well, people are certainly trying to cash in their investments at the moment! another 6.9. little info at moment as pre auction pics only for Shannons.
Auction is Melbourne, and an original Australian car.  interior looks ok. this car must have a LOT of rust!  you can see the rear sills are hanging off and rust around the front near the 'baffle plate' ;)/chin spoiler.  they have had the alloys replaced which makes it look a bit tidier.  it may just be my colour blindness, but are the front quarter panels completely different colour of gold to the rest of the car?  I would think in current market price 15-20k due to rust - no rust could see a lot higher.
perhaps a phone bidder will not pick up on this!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: UTn_boy on 28 August 2017, 10:32 AM
How in the hell is it that Australian cars end up being so rusty?!  I know that in the early 1960's when the car were being assembled there in Australia that no body shutz was used, and 99% of Mercedes in Australia from that era rusted away.  But with the W116, the body shutz and cosmoline were applied at the factory just like every other W116.....which makes me wonder why so many later model Australian cars end up  being so rusty?   :-\
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: ptashek on 28 August 2017, 12:43 PM
Quote from: UTn_boy on 28 August 2017, 10:32 AM
How in the hell is it that Australian cars end up being so rusty?!  I know that in the early 1960's when the car were being assembled there in Australia that no body shutz was used, and 99% of Mercedes in Australia from that era rusted away.  But with the W116, the body shutz and cosmoline were applied at the factory just like every other W116.....which makes me wonder why so many later model Australian cars end up  being so rusty?   :-\

Low quality steel used on the W116, plus most of the Australian population living in what's probably the globe's biggest rust-belt, close to the Pacific shoreline?

Just my guess :)
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: TJ 450 on 29 August 2017, 05:38 AM
Yep, mostly due to cars being near the coast, but also due to water leaks not being attended to in the cars, and them being left outside in the weather.

Tim
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: TJ 450 on 29 August 2017, 05:42 AM
Also, cars in the arid areas aren't imune to rust either as the soils can be very saline, so all that red dust that gets in everywhere also causes rust.

Tim
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: robertd on 29 August 2017, 05:24 PM
Why do you say " low quality steel" UTn ?
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: daantjie on 29 August 2017, 05:43 PM
Quote from: robertd on 29 August 2017, 05:24 PM
Why do you say " low quality steel" UTn ?

Story I hard was due to steel shortage low grade steel from Russia was used at the time. Something to do with carbon content apparently.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: TJ 450 on 29 August 2017, 09:19 PM
It's not so much the quality of the steel as such, but the carbon content among other properties. The steel would have been chosen for the particular area of the body. I think it is more that rust preventative measures were less than ideal at the time, and thus applies to many makes and models too.

Tim
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 07 September 2017, 08:27 AM
1978 Australian delivered 6.9 #4996 $29,900 on carpoint. Ikon gold!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: TJ 450 on 07 September 2017, 09:45 AM
That one looks pretty nice in the pics, reasonable mileage too.

Tim
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: robertd on 07 September 2017, 06:31 PM
Icon Gold has grown to be my favorite colour for the 116, very nice

Rob
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 03 October 2017, 08:03 AM
the gold Shannons auction 6.9 on P2 sold for 25k I see!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 03 October 2017, 08:05 AM
I really like this, its my sort of car!  popped up on carpoint for 4k.  Australian yorkstar car 1979. id love to burn around town with this car exactly like this for a week!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: rumb on 03 October 2017, 08:43 AM
4K for  a set of bumpers?
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: TJ 450 on 03 October 2017, 08:44 AM
Lol, the forest in the back seat area adds to the patina.

Tim
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: robertd on 03 October 2017, 03:45 PM
for a week Nathan?
The cops would grab you for growing couch in the back.  this is the best I've seen
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 30 December 2017, 11:24 AM
I note this blue 6.9 has popped up on carsales (what happened to carpoint by the way, carsales sucks).
I think it was for sale a year or two ago and did not sell but im not at home to check.
nice looking original car interesting he asks 50k for a 350k/200mile car.  like the colour and leather probably done a little while ago.
good on them for putting up plenty of pics
car in Victoria
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: slfan on 30 December 2017, 01:54 PM

This blue one looks very nice.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: rumb on 30 December 2017, 03:34 PM
Interesting that the VIN is 5610 -  year 1979 and the chassis is 43 built in 1975.  I would love to know the story behind that.  Must have sat in the factory somewhere for 4 years.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: TJ 450 on 30 December 2017, 11:59 PM
Hi Rumb,

Where are you getting the 1975 from? This looks like a later car to me.

Stranger things have happened though, as my blue 6.9 is a July 76 build and was sold sometime around 1980, and has an Aus compliance date of 1-78 and has a USA 1977 engine from the factory according to the data card.

I like this blue car though... although it's a lot of money it appears to be a good example.

Tim
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Max-NL on 31 December 2017, 04:46 AM
Didn't they reset the chassis number every year (not the vin but the one on the options tag)?
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: rumb on 02 January 2018, 07:18 PM
Production   World   North America
1975   474   0
1976   1475   0
1977   1798   462
1978   1665   437
1979   1839   576
1980   129   317
1981   4   0
Total   7380   1816

chassis 43 would have been made the first year.  (on the radiator support tag)
VIN 5610, just add up # made each year to see where it falls.

Chassis and VIN numbers are usually fairly close to the same, but I think it would be very rare if the same.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 06 February 2018, 08:40 AM
1978 6.9 Australian delivered # 5128
231,000km for $49,000
located in QLD and on carsales presently
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: robertd on 10 February 2018, 03:10 PM
I purchased #5128 in May 2008 for $8,000. nice original car. sold it a few years later to finance my business start up cost.

This was the car I drove in the M100 Australian rally down under. good memories.

Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 13 February 2018, 09:21 AM
prices have climbed since then RD!
I just listed one of our 6.9s for sale as there was only one available, this seems to have triggered a landslide as another 2-3 have popped up.

one of those popping up for sale is plate number LC5060 in Woy Woy NSW
138000km and asking $60,000!
Reports second owner on carsales.com.au and says has spent lots on restoration.
Being cheeky, I would suggest they should have put new headlight seals on so water wasn't pictured inside the lens but thats just being snooty!

Using the car rego site, its listed chassis number is #5455 but im not sure if this is accurate
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 13 February 2018, 09:27 AM
and another listed today is PT066 which the NSW rego site reports as chassis number #6032.
thistle green, suggests last owner 19 years.They want 35k for this car with 263,000km.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: robertd on 14 February 2018, 03:28 AM
Hi Nathan,
Yes Prices are well on the way, you may recall I put my Goldy up for sale last year a $69,000!

Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 14 February 2018, 05:22 AM
ha ha. I forgot about that RD. I remember we spoke and you noted you would drag the market up. I think you actually did! ill give you a cut if I make a sale! ;)
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: robertd on 14 February 2018, 07:06 AM
Good Luck
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 01 April 2018, 09:27 AM
sold on graysonline for 12k or so today. i think this would be a nice colour originally -172G.
an early car with low VIN (#1596). a euro with 229000kms, but the odo would have changed at some point so who knows if km's are legit.
the pics have the car riding high and the boot doesnt shut properly in one shot, but this is not a bad price at all it seems for a reasonable looking car.
the car was in Victoria but sold to someone in NSW
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 31 May 2018, 09:20 AM
I went looking for a g500 at this place, and saw a 6.9 on their site!  VIN #5583
a nice car, I last had it registered in 2005 when it sold at a Shannons auction for 10k with 100000km. it now has 114000km and POA as the price, at an exclusive garage this means check your kidney at the door.  nice looking car.
in Victoria at Duttons garage.  on XWXs but shots show it in high riding position for some reason.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 31 May 2018, 09:35 AM
back up for sale again, as listed on this page previously ! 1979 yorkstar delivered #6032.  looks straight enough! had this for sale about 6 months ago when I noted same owner for 19 years. not sure if it sold then as has a different suburb in NSW listed this time. wants 32k buy it now. 267000km - its been driven 4000km in 6 months by the look of it, so no garage queen lately!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: robertd on 03 June 2018, 02:41 AM
Is this the Jeff Kennett Car
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 03 June 2018, 05:57 AM
dont think so RD. remember that car had bundts and no wheel arch chrome.  remember JK car originally sold for 5k, arghhhh
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 10 July 2018, 10:34 AM
browsing gumtree and reminded a former forum poster was selling his car.   
the seller was on here before the great forum war of 2010 (or whenever the hell it was! ;) ) when a few disgruntled parties went and started their own site, most of you are too young for this! 
brown before the red paint job, #3312 is reasonably priced compared to current 6.9s, although its a hard task to go back from that red.
fortunately the seller notes they still have the original bundts as the ones on it would need to go in the bin within 3 seconds of purchase.
the imitation front spoiler doesn't quite sit well without the rest of the body decorations of the period on the rest of the car
$19000 or so on gumtree and in NSW.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: robertd on 10 July 2018, 09:16 PM

Yes I remember this red beast.
I agree, those "wheels" would need to come off immediately if not sooner.
the front spoiler is an "AMG" copy, I toyed with the idea of putting one on my Goldie a few years back but am glad I didn't.
As time goes by I have come to realize that these cars look best in original factory trim.

Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 10 July 2018, 09:35 PM
You know my thoughts RD, these cars are appealing because of what they were, not what we want them to be - we will not improve them on MBs design!

the problem with paint colour changes is the engine bay. as I have recently done my engine bay, to do it properly is hard work. the only alternative if you change colour is to paint 'around' structures black. dad did this with his car, and it doesn't look very tidy.

re the spoilers, some have done the whole car like WGB and it looks period correct, doing half doesn't work as well.  but finding the other bits is bloody hard and expensive!

having briefly floated our own red 6.9 for sale, I left the 8 hole w140 alloys on for the advert, even though we have the repainted mint bundts with the car.  its probably better just to put it all back to original nowadays as most people interested in these cars want the original form.

anyway, a reasonably priced 6.9.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: s class on 11 July 2018, 08:14 AM
Michel's car is of course a euro, which would be of appeal to some prospective buyers.  THe red grille is a bit hard to swallow, but at least we know it was a quality paint job and interior work.  I would prefer it in its original Milan, but still an attractive option for someone in the market. 
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: floyd111 on 11 July 2018, 09:34 AM
agreed, and still.. there's a clearly an 8-year old kid my head trying to tell me that 690SEL badge really is very cool.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 12 July 2018, 12:01 AM
ill pay that one Floyd.

im with you on the colour Sclass, owning a Milan brown 6.9 should be on every humans list of things to do. next one I find, ill pounce!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: oversize on 12 July 2018, 04:31 AM
Quote from: floyd111 on 11 July 2018, 09:34 AM
agreed, and still.. there's a clearly an 8-year old kid my head trying to tell me that 690SEL badge really is very cool.

Haha very true!!!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: TJ 450 on 12 July 2018, 07:13 AM
The fact that nobody has bought this car yet is a good indication of the market... as in practically non existent unless you list it for a very low price.

Tim
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 12 July 2018, 07:46 AM
dunno about that TJ.  if im spending 20k on a 40 year old classic, im not going to buy a car that deviates a lot from the original.  we aren't so good over here due to our isolation.   gotta be positive!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 05 August 2018, 08:34 AM
on ebay wanting buy it now $23500. says storage for 12 years but running. the VIN is hard to make out but appears to be #5318. checking the registry identifies this is the car and formerly owned by oversize.  The ad leaves a little to be desired in my opinion.  I believe after Oversize, it went to Darwin, and is now back in NSW. unregistered. It is evidently the same car as it has mb tex seats (not leather), a 126 steering wheel, no 6.9 badge on the boot. note when the previous owner has the car it had some massive rust holes in it, they appear gone so any interesting party better check it well - for the buy it now price you would hope it was done nicely!
the dash has also evidently been reskinned at some point, doesnt look like the right patina but inspection would tell. same KMs as previous owner so doesnt look like its moved in a long time. australian car originally
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 05 August 2018, 08:35 AM
and previously, the same car
same exhaust tips too, the same car im very sure.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: TJ 450 on 05 August 2018, 08:45 PM
You'd be mad to buy at that price. I have one ready to rock and roll for $16,000!

Tim
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 04 November 2018, 09:34 AM
Australian 6.9 repainted 5 years ago. 263,000km on it.  The car currently advertised belongs to the honourable org member RobertD. 1979 car. Using vic licence checker, its engine #5980, I didnt see the VIN but will allow RD to post it if he sees fit!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 04 November 2018, 09:41 AM
This one takes the cake for inflation presently. 1979 Victorian car advertised on facebook by Carl Lennox motors.  Notes originally owned by the Grollo family (which means nothing to me as a Western Australian), the motor business owner has had it in his possession and comments on the restoration he did.  Asking $135,000!
Engine number is #5920
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 06 November 2018, 10:35 AM
damn, #5318 just keeps recycling, its about the 3rd time this year its selling!! they want $29,500 for doing a paint wrap on this formerly silver car which had major rust issues. identifiable with its 450sel only badge, 126 steering wheel and MB tex seats.  An org poster owned this car. formerly silver car,you can see under the front bumper where they were too slack to wrap
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: oversize on 06 November 2018, 11:04 PM
Oh the horror! Considering how much I sold it for and what it's going for now someone made some bucks and someone else got burned... They could at least put a radio in it for what they're asking!

The poor old girl makes me wish I'd kept her so I could treat it better than the last series of owners. I'd guess at least 2 since I sold it. Cross fingers the next owner shows some respect for the car!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: marku on 08 November 2018, 09:45 AM
116 prices? Someone just paid $156,000 for 6.9 in the US last month.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: floyd111 on 10 November 2018, 05:38 PM
Where? What car?
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: marku on 11 November 2018, 10:07 AM
Goodings auction, Pebble Beach, California in August. 1978 450SEL 6.9 owned by the same person from new until 2016 with 32K on the clock. Oddly it has black euro bumpers, Astral Silver/Blue Leather all manuals, tools, fire extinguisher and a full set of blue factory issue mats. Write up Winter no26 Classic Mercedes.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: rumb on 11 November 2018, 11:05 AM
105 1978 Mercedes-Benz 450SEL 6.9 116.036.12.003902 $100,000 $130,000 N/R $156,750 €134,805 21% Astral Silver over Blue leather. This exceptional example was sold new in early 1978 to a gentleman near Chicago who maintained a large personal automotive stable. Dressed in Astral Silver Metallic over a Blue leather interior, the 6.9 would remain in his care until 2016 with less than 19,000 total miles recorded. Maintenance records indicate that the sedan was sequestered early in its life and has been driven less than 1,000 miles in the past 32 years. It has recently been treated to a thorough detailing and mechanical refurbishment. Accompanied by its manuals, warning triangle, factory fire extinguisher, tool roll, and what may be one of the last NOS sets of factory blue floor mats, this 6.9 is among the finest surviving examples and can assume a place of honor at any gathering of Mercedes-Benz cars.

I cant seem to find any other pictures of it.

Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: daantjie on 11 November 2018, 11:22 AM
Quote from: rumb on 11 November 2018, 11:05 AM
105 1978 Mercedes-Benz 450SEL 6.9 116.036.12.003902 $100,000 $130,000 N/R $156,750 €134,805 21% Astral Silver over Blue leather. This exceptional example was sold new in early 1978 to a gentleman near Chicago who maintained a large personal automotive stable. Dressed in Astral Silver Metallic over a Blue leather interior, the 6.9 would remain in his care until 2016 with less than 19,000 total miles recorded. Maintenance records indicate that the sedan was sequestered early in its life and has been driven less than 1,000 miles in the past 32 years. It has recently been treated to a thorough detailing and mechanical refurbishment. Accompanied by its manuals, warning triangle, factory fire extinguisher, tool roll, and what may be one of the last NOS sets of factory blue floor mats, this 6.9 is among the finest surviving examples and can assume a place of honor at any gathering of Mercedes-Benz cars.

I cant seem to find any other pictures of it.

@$156 750 by far the highest sell price I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: floyd111 on 11 November 2018, 08:59 PM
Possibly the deceased, former owner had hidden gold bars or bags of coke in that car, and someone found out. 8)
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: marku on 13 November 2018, 12:29 PM
The magazine write up had pictures though not of the interior.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 24 November 2018, 09:49 AM
same car listed on page 3 has popped up again.  a very nice coloured 1979 6.9 popping up #5610, with its 4th owner.  $49900 on carpoint.  interesting, round hydro knob. Australian compliance from yorkstar. 347,000km.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 24 November 2018, 09:51 AM
something wrong with pics so multiple posts on this one
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 24 January 2019, 05:14 AM
$42,000 for 280,000km 1979 Yorkstar car #6225.  Previusly owned by honourable forum member RD. in Victoria and on carsales.  Velour interior uncommon for Aussie car.
Was a $6000 car in 2007, $11000 car in 2013 and now the high asking price
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: robertd on 26 January 2019, 05:35 PM
Yep, that was one of mine. 
believe it or not, I purchased it as a parts car for not much money. then thought it was too good to part out and sold it on a few years later.
very original, good mechanically, drove well, but had rust in bad places.
hopefully the rust has been dealt with properly.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 27 March 2019, 09:37 AM
Melbourne delivered car with 115,000km wanting $79000 popped up on car sales today.  silver on blue.  using vic roads site the plate suggests #5583. ill check my VIN log to see when I last saw this car later! interesting there are 4-5 reasonable 6.9s for sale at the moment on car sales (as listed) for around the 40k mark which have sat for a while
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 29 October 2019, 07:48 AM
been a while since I updated so a few more over the last months
not really for sale but the sad end of a car I noted on an Australian sale site.  Victorian plates likely long since expired
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 29 October 2019, 07:53 AM
sorry about the double up, internet a bit out of sorts.  #1558 is a 1976 that was listed at $7500. unregistered in July I think and sold promptly
I had the last entry on this car in 2005 when it had 235000kms and sold for $2000. its appreciated whilst deteriorating!!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 29 October 2019, 08:03 AM
#4965 has just popped up on carsales.com.au but is sold at the oldtimer centre in NSW.  slightly odd with the over riders.  A brown car, the attached pic is of the car several years ago with the 126 alloys on it.
this 1978 Australian car was sold in 2004 for $13500. then $10000 in 2007. now wants $39500 as of yesterday. it currently has 231000km, whilst in 2004 it had 196000km.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 29 October 2019, 05:50 PM
this is the same car in the first three, and second three pics are from 2017 when the car was noted for sale. the first three pics are when the car was noted for sale mid year at around 19k. although it was recently listed as car number #5691, its actually #5646 and is the same car. as it was on a private auction site, I'm not sure what the selling price was, although I think it sold for $19k in 2017.  slightly worse for wear now than previously it seems.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 03 January 2020, 06:18 PM
I dont seem to have records on this one. popped up on a dealers site unusually nowadays for 6.9s.
A green on green car for $13,999.
The ad is quite honest and makes no claim to a beauty queen.
Not much else info on it.  No engine shop so not sure if its Aussie although makes reference to 110,000 miles not kilometres.
On historic rego in South Australia.
im not sure why, but someone changed the fader switch to the horn site and vice verse. the location of the fader switch implies an early 76 or prior model?
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: daantjie on 03 January 2020, 09:51 PM
Now that's a Green Mamba!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: UTn_boy on 04 January 2020, 07:07 PM
Weren't the very early 6.9 cars equipped with Zebrano timber? 
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 05 January 2020, 06:10 PM
75s I think as they had the black centre consoles? but I Think 76 (which I deem early) I think moved to burl. ive asked for some more pics if possible to see if this is a car I had down a while back.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: TJ 450 on 07 January 2020, 04:38 AM
'76 was still Zebrano with black console, later full Zebrano. I think the changeover was '77.

If you look closely, the early cars also had the pleats running right back on the rear seat like the regular 450SEL and other versions.

Regards,
Tim
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 26 January 2020, 07:12 PM
PT066, VIN #6032, was for sale at the old timer centre two years ago for about the same price. on eBay now for a buy it now price of $34800.  260,000km's.  Yorkstar car, one day ill go through all the pics I have and see how many had Yorkstar plates on them, im guessing a lot!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 26 January 2020, 07:22 PM
and another thistle greener (#5440) on car sales for $37500. this cars owner from years ago was a poster on the org (name 13B). since then its changed hands but over the last few years has had a bit of interior work done it seems. sounds like the current seller cared about the car, and it went the opposite of the usual direction after purchase (ie worse!). in 2006 it sold for $13k, and had 211,000km, so 50000km in 14 years, thats reasonable travel for a 6.9 since the millennium (maybe only TJ450 has done more in his!). Currently in Victoria.
my only gripe is how someone can sell a car for close on 40k and take shabby pictures.  digital photography is free, take as many as you like and choose the best ones! still, at least they cleaned the car for the photos unlike many cars.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 01 March 2020, 08:50 AM
6.9 ANL834 in Victoria.  rego check shows engine number #5920 but doesn't show VIN (ill have it on the other computer). 
spit your cereal out folks, 85k!! With 320k's.
nice car, but the ad (from Peter Lennox motors on carsales) grates me
"The Car was acquired... and it was quickly realised that the car was an exceptionally original car ... turned into a complete restoration in his Benz Workshop ". 
Just say it wasn't so good, and you spent some time on it, nothing anyone with a reasonable 6.9 hasn't done.
nice enough car, but 85k? im content with good $'s for a nice car but you better have XWXs or 15s, the wood better not look like the top of a mrs Macks pie, and the steering wheel shouldn't be shiny which happens after 330000km's! I think it popped up a couple of years ago at 60k from the same seller.
I do like the colour combo, a common one but a nice one.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 01 March 2020, 08:51 AM
darn forum won't let all pics go up in one post
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 01 March 2020, 08:52 AM
and finally
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: TJ 450 on 09 March 2020, 12:30 AM
Lol,

Yes he won't be selling that one in a hurry. For that money you would expect a proper original unrestored example.

Tim
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: daantjie on 09 March 2020, 11:00 AM
Holy cow that is some galactic mileage ;D  I have only ever seen such mileage for well worn cars in our prairie provinces, so flat you can see your dog running away for 3 days ;D and even then they are so rusted to hell due to the road salt here during winter, that they usually fall apart due to rust before they get to rack up the miles.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: ptashek on 09 March 2020, 12:05 PM
Quote from: nathan on 01 March 2020, 08:50 AM
the steering wheel shouldn't be shiny which happens after 330000km's

Don't bet on that. My 450SE had a worn out combo-switch (rubbed off lettering), and a shiny steering wheel after just 65k documented miles. My 350SE had a near perfect combo-switch, yet a shiny steering wheel at 112k documented miles.

Not shiny in the worn flat sense, but still not the satin look they come out of the box with.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 20 March 2020, 07:57 PM
i like this car in WA, known to me for a while. seller is different to the long term owner and i wasnt aware it had changed hands.
1980s plates when perth held the americas cup and then it was a big deal
velour and was good shape. only asking 20k - very fair i think!
#6023 the euro with 265,000km
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: TJ 450 on 21 March 2020, 12:43 AM
Looks like a good one Nathan. The fact that it looks relatively original is a good selling point too. I'm pretty sure I've seen this one around somewhere.

Tim
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 24 May 2020, 08:56 AM
a few 6.9s popped up lately.
6.9 #5278 in South Australia for $28850 is interesting. looks like it was imported from Singapore? has a euro speedo but some paperwork in the ad suggests imported, and at the time valued at $150000 so much have been early in its life. brown interior is, well, 70s!  a few oddities like the position of the fanfare horn and demister switch, and fader moved to the top of console?  looks reasonable enough, low km's always tough to comment when an import in my opinion.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 24 May 2020, 09:00 AM
and another new advert, for 6.9 #4986, a victorian car owned by an MB enthusiast (known to one of our esteemed forum members)
looks like an Australia original, and also looks to have the York star plate on it on the drivers side of engine bay.
nice colour, with 305,000km for $45000.  I dont know ive seen a 6.9 in this colour in Australia.
interior is nice, as is dash. a round suspension knob car.  on car sales at the moment
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 28 June 2020, 04:33 AM
an odd one, popped up on lloyds auction recently.  final bid appears to have been $22500 which is a pretty good buy i think for someone.  a QLD car originally, 258000km, VIN #5683. ikon gold with the common light interior.  chromed up bundts, US style!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Randys01 on 30 June 2020, 04:06 AM
Yes I was watching this one.   it's a lovely car eh .  should have fetched bit more I reckon but how much discount do we grant the current market under COVID?
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 01 July 2020, 01:49 AM
agree Randy, think it was wort more but anyway!
qe have our red one on car sales. a guy from QLD reportedly wants to take it when covid over and he can travel here!
few calls, but not an avalanche and been for sale a while
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: bb on 27 August 2020, 08:02 PM
Quote from: nathan on 29 October 2019, 08:03 AM
#4965 has just popped up on carsales.com.au but is sold at the oldtimer centre in NSW.  slightly odd with the over riders.  A brown car, the attached pic is of the car several years ago with the 126 alloys on it.
this 1978 Australian car was sold in 2004 for $13500. then $10000 in 2007. now wants $39500 as of yesterday. it currently has 231000km, whilst in 2004 it had 196000km.

This is (was) my car, which I bought off a seller on this site in 2007. I consigned it to the old timer centre, but they ended up making me an offer which I accepted, and it is now owned by them (unless they have already sold it).
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: jd-6.9 on 20 October 2020, 03:41 PM
Quote from: nathan on 24 May 2020, 08:56 AM
a few 6.9s popped up lately.
6.9 #5278 in South Australia for $28850 is interesting. looks like it was imported from Singapore? has a euro speedo but some paperwork in the ad suggests imported, and at the time valued at $150000 so much have been early in its life. brown interior is, well, 70s!  a few oddities like the position of the fanfare horn and demister switch, and fader moved to the top of console?  looks reasonable enough, low km's always tough to comment when an import in my opinion.

Nathan this is the same car that you posted in this thread in Janurary. Was at a classic car dealer local to me. It was on the market for $13,999. Not a bad profit margin if it sold for $28850 a few months later!(Not knowing what he had to spend on the car to get it to nicer condition).
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 12 December 2020, 06:16 PM
noted on grays online which has had a couple of 6.9s in recent times, I thought they only sold army unimogs!!
6.9 #3380, 1979, a left hand drive car conversion.  its also had LPG fitted in 1997 by the look of it so imported by then.
I have records on it from 2011 and 2013 when it sold for around 6k, then 7k.  km's seem legit (170000km) and low mileage but not sure when conversion done.
auction not finished yet, see what it ends up as
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: floyd111 on 12 December 2020, 09:52 PM
I seem to be late at the party, but is/was that creme colored steering wheel an original thing? I don't recall ever having seen one..
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 13 December 2020, 04:36 AM
im confused Floyd, which bit are you referring to?
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: ptashek on 13 December 2020, 07:58 AM
Quote from: floyd111 on 12 December 2020, 09:52 PM
I seem to be late at the party, but is/was that creme colored steering wheel an original thing? I don't recall ever having seen one..

It's just poor lighting in the shot. The steering wheel is standard black.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 22 January 2021, 11:14 PM
#5583 is back up for sale, the 3rd time in two years on lloydsonline.com.au . with 6 days, price is at $43000AUD
nothing really changed on car
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 27 March 2021, 07:42 PM
back for sale, originally seen in 2017 when advertised for 30k, #4996 is now on an auction site.  with covid classic car prices getting silly here in our country, who knows where it goes. actually looks like a nice original cared for car. interestingly, its only done 300km since 3 years ago which probably isnt actually a great thing! not much has changed unsurprisingly. on grays online, its riding quite high in the rear!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 07 May 2021, 06:29 PM
it brings me some form of perverse please when i see a 6.9 here in Australia i didnt have details on!
this one is listed for a shannons auction in june.
no details, citrus green, VIN #5640.
i cant read the km's on the odo, but its a euro based on mph/kmh speedo.
actually looks nice paintwork and interesting to see what it sells for.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: s class on 09 May 2021, 01:41 AM
Citrus is stunning, think it's the first time ive seen it on a 6.9
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Randys01 on 12 May 2021, 01:10 AM
 I don't think this is an Aus spec vehicle.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: mrkozzy on 15 May 2021, 08:48 PM
Any more info/thoughts on this vehicle would be appreciated.

I've got a friend giving it serious thought.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 18 May 2021, 08:30 AM
surprisingly two 6.9s popped up on lloyds online today.  they are 100 VINs apart. i dont know where the lloyds site came from, but its selling more 6.9s than most other sites in australia.
back up for sale is #6032, the thistle green car.  a facebook user said this car was rusty and stay away. actually looks pretty fair to me as an australian yorkstar car.  263,969 kms, it hasnt done much in the last 3 years when its sold several times. 
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 18 May 2021, 08:35 AM
the second lloyds online car today i didnt have a records. blue on blue, looks nice and original with becker.  australian car. missing chin spoiler. 216,295km.
VIN #6132, i note that car #6131 is also in australia
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: revilla on 18 May 2021, 12:21 PM
Quote from: nathan on 18 May 2021, 08:35 AM
the second lloyds online car today i didnt have a records. blue on blue, looks nice and original with becker.  australian car. missing chin spoiler. 216,295km.
VIN #6132, i note that car #6131 is also in australia

Hello everyone, and thanks Nathan for the report.
Nice color!
Anybody knows the DB-xyz paint color code?
Perhaps 387 Blau, or 906 graublau, or 930 silberblau ?
I'm in the process of dissembling/sanding to paint one car. I had decided on one color but this one added second thoughts on my selection...
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: revilla on 18 May 2021, 12:25 PM
http://meinbenz.de/farben/116/farbcodes116.htm

Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 28 May 2021, 10:53 PM
RD's cars keep coming up! #5884 surfaced and sold without a price on brooklands classic cars victoria.  looks nice and original.  One interesting tidbit the seller dug up was that it originally belonged to one of the Myer family
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 07 June 2021, 06:11 PM
not doing so well, this one popped up on a Facebook sales group. car #6003, its the Yorkstar delivered one order before the silver green car above (#6032)!  it looks like its heading for the scrapper. not much else to say, another one gone.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: hamidagha on 08 June 2021, 09:14 AM
Quite grab the LHS wing mirror for me please 😩
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 27 September 2021, 09:48 AM
6.9 5440 has popped up a few times, now at $70000! formerly owned by forum member 13B, ive seen it cross hands quite a few times now. its been put back into more original guise evidently, and is on carsales in Toorak.  With 266,700km, this means its done < 2000km in the last 5 years.  I attach one pic from the advert, and another few from previous times when it was sporting different plates and looks!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 27 September 2021, 09:57 AM
and only today, I sold one of ours.  The white 6.9 (#4764) is a euro i bought of I think the second owner years ago. Its say waiting for its turn to be restored.  With dad getting older and already having three 6.9s between us, it was time to let it go.  It was bought locally for a 5 figure sum, admittedly interest was quite steep and I should have maybe put a higher price on it. Anyway, hopefully it gets restored to former glory.
it has the limited 320kmh speedo (in seriousness, i dont know where the previous owner had this made!). not my best pics sorry, compressing to fit the forum can be difficult! Anyway, i also put a short youtube video up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4_F7KFPK8k
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 27 December 2021, 05:33 AM
This one popped on carsales a few weeks ago. I thought maybe #5172 was new to my records, but I had it down last in 2007.
Advertised on carsales for 60k, looks like a nice car.  190,000km now, had 175000 or so in 2007 when last recorded.  Owner says had for 20 years and a Yorkstar car.  Now in QLD.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 23 January 2022, 09:24 AM
a nice silver on blue australian yorkstar car. sold in 2016 for $68000 (asking at time), its now on carsales for $60k. when in 2016, had 146000km, seller now says 147000km so he must have been very frugal!
nice enough car for an original one.  Its actually in the northern territory, i think this is only the second 6.9 i had registered in NT in 20 years (although it still has its NSW plates on it AAA21L)
the pics are from 2016 as i cant compress the most recent ones to fit.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Neil4speed on 27 February 2022, 01:22 AM
I am very far away from Australia (Canada), but love all the postings you have provided. Aussies are truly car nuts, and the number of 6.9's you have posted is evidence of this. The prices are pretty extreme as well!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 08 July 2022, 06:51 PM
How did i miss the last post, thanks Neil!  We all have a bit of craziness in us as old car fans, but I like to keep tabs on which 6.9s are where as a history record almost
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 08 July 2022, 07:05 PM
this poor 6.9, #4895 went to the crusher largely unsalvaged.  our friend and former poster WGB sadly passed away 18 months ago and his cars have sat in his rural home.  I had previously spoken to family and told them if i can ever help, let me know.  They called at short notice to ask for help with several of his cars as they flew in for a short period from 4000km to sort their affairs.  I went up to his house, down the rural road and checked the cars.  most importantly, i got his pride and joy 6.9 running and it pumped up, this is to be sold.  he also had a 116 he had stripped which i sold on gumtree for parts for the family.  another wreck i managed to sell for them.  but for australian delivered 4895 , which used to belong to another org member, it was too late. the car had sat outside on the farm all this time, had water ingress, and when i opened the door a 4 inch wolf spider crawled around, i was not stripping any interior.  there was no time to pull parts as it sat on its rear end with the front suspension off, it could not be moved easily, nor rolled so with only 1 day to sort the other cars, it had to go to the wrecker. what a sad day...
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 08 July 2022, 10:32 PM
and whilst im clearing some folders off my desktop. this one is for sale by long time org member as one of his parts cars.  #1776 is a euro import.  It is being sold with the engine and trans for 10k a few months ago.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 14 August 2022, 03:01 PM
popping up is another org members car that hasnt been driven much. on gumtree for $25k is #5467.  A yorkstar australian car with 285000km, it is unregistered. sorry not many pics as too large to upload for site. towbar.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 14 August 2022, 03:09 PM
Another blue one popping up again is #6225 in Victoria.  Bought by current owner in 2016, its on carsales for $44,000.  An australian car with the rare velour (for our market anyway, as essentially all had leather), it has no radio.  same seller attempted to sell a couple of years ago.  it has 284,000km on it. it has had accumulators done recently PS the forum update is really making mince meat of attachment of pics. sorry about this!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 11 September 2022, 09:36 AM
6341 eng.jpg#6341 is up for sale on trading garage here in australia.  Im a bit miffed by this one, and buyer beware.  Its listed as australia, but has a euro oil cooler, no compliance plate, and no 625 option code on it -its a euro.  Also, they list 88000km, the last two sellers clearly stated this was miles.  The body looks ok in photos but closer not so great.  No chin spoiler, they have screwed some of the chrome trim on below the doors (arghh!).  The snake skin wrapping of the interior wood is appalling. Its previously been in Adelaide and then Darwin! I think John green worked on it at MB spares at one point too.  Previous number plates include snake skin dash bx85yq and then 541882.  Its been for sale in 2010 and 2016 . we will see what the auction closes at as its already 20k with one week left. Note the old pic I had of it when it had 5 spoke 'pentas' on
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: daantjie on 11 September 2022, 09:56 AM
Also has a black reservoir for washer fluid.  Must be some kind of repop.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 11 September 2022, 03:25 PM
Hi Daniel,  The black washer bottle is just them painting it as it was likely just filthy.  Not sure why on earth people would do that rather than just clean it up!  We have different washer bottle reservoirs than LHD cars, and they are very hard to find.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Randys01 on 12 September 2022, 01:44 AM
oh dear....err..that rhs looks a bit rough. ::)
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: BMA on 13 September 2022, 12:39 AM
just noticed, this Versions do have one water tank at the right side of the engine compartment, where I have in my European Version the ABS. My both Tanks are on the left side. How would it look like if your version would have ABS as well or was ABS not available in Ausieland?
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 13 September 2022, 06:11 PM
This is a good question BMA, I have not seen an Australian delivered 116 with ABS.  The ABS was on 1980 models only I recall?  The water bottle was always located there on the Left side as the steering column comes down the Right side so it had to be moved.  Admittedly, isn't the ABS really tucked over to one side near the quarter panel and could still fit?
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: BMA on 15 September 2022, 12:57 AM
@nathan: ABS was launched end of 1978, very first car to present was a 6.9. From 7380 produced 6.9 worldwide only 200 were ordered with ABS!....Why?....Customers were sceptical and mainly the rich owners argued: "My Chauffeur can better brake than such a modern system"  ;D  I am not kidding! ....look at our W116-Daddy, showing the European 6.9 with ABS 
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 04 November 2022, 06:46 AM
Ta BMA.

A few 6.9s sold in the last couple of weeks.
#5683 has returned from 2020 lloyds online auction, now on Shannons auction.  asking 20-30k with no reserve, it previously sold for 22500 in 2020. has done <500km in that 2 years.  Has a bit of rust from the pics but overall looks like a used, but still moderately low km car (259000km).  I think the car market is cooling from covid highs but lets see what happens to it!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 04 November 2022, 06:50 AM
so this one on FB group 116 australia reportedly sold for 10k.  230000km, it looks very rough, still, its the lowest priced sale of a 6.9 I think im aware of in 5-10 years. thats where they are. I dont have a VIN or any other data sadly of this car in Byron bay nsw.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 04 November 2022, 06:55 AM
and here we have it, a new champion.  $95,000 reportedly. sold this one with is #6184.  a very nice looking car with a low 109,000km.  Looks legit and tidy, not much one could fault here for an Australian car.  I think  its one I have on record from about 2004 when it was selling for $46000 which at the time was a wild price for a 6.9.  enjoy!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Neil4speed on 09 November 2022, 12:04 AM
Thanks for Sharing Nathan, truly a remarkable price... Happy to see generally speaking! Makes me feel that my efforts on mine are not in vain!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 04 December 2022, 07:19 AM
so #5899 has popped up in the ACT, not a common spot for 6.9s despite our former prime minister owning a 116 during his tenure.  Silver on blue, its an auction site so not sure on finishing price.  An australian Lanes (Melbourne) delivered car, it has 198,000km on it.  The car is tidy, not mint but relatively low kms. It has seome very deep blue door cards which look like they probably did when new.  It has a round suspension knob of interest, otherwise nothing out of the ordinary and the website gives little details.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 04 December 2022, 07:22 AM
I note the round about of #6032 continues (see earlier), this must be the 4th or 5th time ive seen it advertised in the last few years.  The silver green, they want 40k on carsales. Its done 3km since last year according to the odometer pictures!  Doesnt look bad, but odd...
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 04 December 2022, 07:35 AM
along with the brown unregistered one i put up on the last page, the seller reportedly had this one. I have no details barring a FB post noting a chap had bought it.  It was in Lismore reportedly and got submerged in the horrendous floods.  If its as bad as the interior looks, I cant imagine much could have been saved on this one.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Neil4speed on 05 December 2022, 11:43 AM
I could not be further from you in Canada, but love reading of your catalog of 6.9's in Australia. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 06 December 2022, 08:20 PM
Cheers Neil,

Ive kept records for about 20 years for my own perverse interest as we have two, but have had about 8 or so amongst other MBs.  I thought a public record is kind of interesting. Start one for the Canadian side of things!

Im off to your part of the world next week, but just the west coast for Xmas with family. I dont imagine 116s last long in snow!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: raueda1 on 10 December 2022, 09:09 AM
Quote from: nathan on 04 December 2022, 07:35 AMalong with the brown unregistered one i put up on the last page, the seller reportedly had this one. I have no details barring a FB post noting a chap had bought it.  It was in Lismore reportedly and got submerged in the horrendous floods.  If its as bad as the interior looks, I cant imagine much could have been saved on this one.
Makes me weep.   :'(
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 26 February 2023, 01:08 AM
On carsales this month for $26,800 #3733.  Reportedly it was a British car used in the France for consular duties.  Odometer is miles and at 222,000. I last had it down in 2008 when it was for sale for $18k.  At that time the number plate was 262KVV and it was in QLD.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Gpapaniko on 26 February 2023, 07:33 AM
Milan Brown is fast becoming one of my favourite colours in the W116
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 26 February 2023, 09:26 AM
Agree GP, when it great shape, its magnificent! Like this one spotted in NSW recently on another forum, #6104
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Neil4speed on 15 March 2023, 04:10 PM
Quote from: Gpapaniko on 26 February 2023, 07:33 AMMilan Brown is fast becoming one of my favourite colours in the W116

Probably the main reason I bought mine :) Not to take it off topic (quick snap in a very non-aussie -40C, dry day just to circulate the fluids and stretch legs over the winter hibernation). Ignore the trim that I am cleaning and re-installing.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/BVs9xuLCbsoqtXO8AY_OzVY_Ua4hEstzww_z7vVT5r7c-rHE6_tNIH2IMz87cwnGwqgM2e39tFkIOpFAKs3DqhP5qCXsIak9QptcrxKiVJCLr5q98APBc-FmVL40iwosCZ3s_U6nQg0i7YjFibt9s58O0Q7w_WXBx-TcR3o-zNunwjVkuhkkLxaHOm7EXtf6duqXLH68lZ1tM-rTFJg2NrxA4KL9eIrkBnJiLd9mMvFbM_phaTPxqUoiTJf1vWlfWxzXB2SVzy6gysQxCVGDuEWt6Fp8MQpuJt1A3bQx0atQWlPKcPY5an8QeuMCxUIHBl0kBpgPjQEkhNlQOxVAjVC3pfDsHUq22kXEqOZz4wIh2GrYN3vIMu8dx1V0Oza_yrlVty7qMZnJJGu-mkzxrMT1_2aCrfrlDP1Bq9ohWylfabz2IX5NhEmOWFZBPnWRBdmzZ2rGOkogdpBFhFBvuTjruieR_Yi1ajnDdpqWZm6kS0E2TkOAhd7WhGLEMMDKYTzlCe8cA62P7u6BkN0BkKyAgDEiQdRVzfRyWvbHzD3baQnc9uxIdKfKbkBSXrU2EydRsgBP6jPLPZE2xAXCVR_I28s65y3ZPqJjFqQVKh9HZrQsJEnZZQgQs3hv2VdzpJ7FnPDEyFUy_Uo5senuLJnNsnEsIlFZirCtr2ulGHgm40qPvLSnx0dnn10yckvsamBFTvIOBQFHhFjBEl9ff-tUuzBte9FxF9cS8LtLwBCoEiEzVMPd85Mgm-sO25muSu6sWPaSukhJ9FYQ9SrGEj1kgNrwyudPl4eby3Sj4sK0vywYxMlDGKnoEhKRJXeCOUZK3-aMzAOjPDou7WXhzmONhncowm86PIZ7YfGPZ8aW9kLQoV5yqCBVlRLDHVBcvuDlGisyogh7x4yUBTCzgxmAYo0-BUdZfCGk6i77ag8Hu_00yA=w990-h747-no?authuser=0)
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: UTn_boy on 19 March 2023, 06:00 AM
What a shame.  Cars like this in the U.S. are well under $10,000.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 19 March 2023, 09:07 AM
Not wishing to get derailed from the purpose of the thread, but thats just economics.  50 year old cars just aren't so common, so if you want one, you will pay for it. In saying this, the covid car market has definitely cooled.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 12 May 2023, 10:16 AM
1978 Australian yorkstar car for 16k.  Looks like its been outside for a while and 264,000km. #4962 looks like a parts car with that body.  Its on FB Mercedes Benz Australia Buy & Sell.  Ill check my records to see if I have it from years gone byScreenshot_20230511_162513_Facebook.jpg
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: 13B on 14 May 2023, 05:11 PM
I sold this car to buy a used Falcon GT and regret nothing :-)  I loved the 6.9 and while it looked great from a few metres away, it was definitely showing it's age in area and was probably close to what is termed needed a full ground-up restoration.  That said I was mainly competent to keep the mechanicals going, so I was pleased with a car that always had heaps of reliable power despite it's high mileage (the odo had been turned back prior to Des' ownership so it's actual mileage now would be close to 400K km). 

To my mind $70K is not unexpected because I reckon the car would have needed multiples of 5-figures amounts to put its issues right, an amount I was not prepared to put into it.  Glad to see that someone has.

My main gripes convincing me that my time with the car was soon to be over, the sunroof always leaked on me no matter how much $ I threw at it, and the MB tex was showing it's age.  The A/C never worked and was going to require a full rebuild to make it work.  The suspension was never perfect but I messed around with it until it was 'good enough' so it would behave in low position and the dash light wouldn't come on, but high level never worked, the light would just come on and the height never change.  For the city driving I used the car for standard height was fine. 

It may surprise no one that when Falcon GT I bought has no sunroof nor leather interior.

That said I liked both my 6.9s despite both leaking on me while when it rained.  They are a great MB enthusiasts car if you have the skill and patience to restore and attend to the upkeep.  Having owned a 450SE also they are much easier to live with if you like the W116 styling.




Quote from: nathan on 27 September 2021, 09:48 AM6.9 5440 has popped up a few times, now at $70000! formerly owned by forum member 13B, ive seen it cross hands quite a few times now. its been put back into more original guise evidently, and is on carsales in Toorak.  With 266,700km, this means its done < 2000km in the last 5 years.  I attach one pic from the advert, and another few from previous times when it was sporting different plates and looks!

Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 16 May 2023, 04:03 PM
welcome back 13b, the car is now in WA I believe!
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 17 May 2023, 08:07 AM
6341 might be listed earlier in the thread, a euro popped up on Shannons this week.  Its got 88000miles on it, although the Shannons add says km's this is not correct.  I have it recorded back to 2010, when it was in Darwin before moving to Adelaide.  the ad says factory 'snakeskin wood', strangely I never saw that one in the brochure!  it is for auction.  the velour interior looks tidy enough.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Gpapaniko on 23 May 2023, 07:05 AM
What's the read on this recent listing in Australia.

It's listed as AMG tuned 6.9 and from the photos has such features as heated front seats.

Not a fan of the after market wheels and exhaust.
Keen to know from the group if this is a genuine AMG W116.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1979-mercedes-benz-450sel-6-9-auto/OAG-AD-22000192 (https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1979-mercedes-benz-450sel-6-9-auto/OAG-AD-22000192)

Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: raueda1 on 23 May 2023, 07:57 AM
Interesting find.  Agreed on wheels and exhaust.  I'm also not a fan of the rear spoiler though I guedss that's what AMG did.  My tastes run conservative. 

So, real or fake AMG?  I'm no expert, but I lean towards fake.  Spoiler is absolutely fishy.  My impression is that AMG spoiler had a more oval/roundish shape, not rectangular like on this car.  This one isn't integrated with lower grill at all, just covers it.  And it's affixed with philips head screws???  OTOH, there's AMG logo on the speedometer.  Doing that as an aftermarket trick seems like a lot of trouble.  And why no engine pix?  And why cover the dash unless it's cracked?  And palomino carpets with black interior seems unusual, at best.  And no option codes listed.  I'd be interested in other folks comments. 

To add to that, there seems to be a lot of contradictory rubbish out there on the AMG 6.9.  I found one listing that said that the 6.9 was an AMG-modified 450SEL bored to 6.9L by AMG.  They're asking huge $$$ for this car (USD$78k!).  For that amount it better be real and much better documented IMO.  Cheers,
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: rumb on 23 May 2023, 08:20 AM
M100 club grill badge. Reclining and heated rear seats. Oddly missing steering wheel center cap.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: raueda1 on 23 May 2023, 10:24 AM
Quote from: rumb on 23 May 2023, 08:20 AMM100 club grill badge. Reclining and heated rear seats. Oddly missing steering wheel center cap.
Well whadaya know?  I think I found the car on the M100 registry.  No mention of AMG anything, but as far as I can tell the registry doesn't seem to have a search field that would capture that, or any other option info for that matter.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 23 May 2023, 09:22 PM
#5554 must have literally popped up.  This car is synonymous with the forum, previously belonging to Dr William Babe who has some of the seminal posts on the 6.9, including the strut rebuild here.  He passed away two years ago.  I helped his family sell a couple of his cars but a little strangely, they directed the 6.9 to be sold by another who undervalued it significantly, and the buyer has obviously bought it, cleaned it, and thats it.  Now selling it for probably 85k premium on what he bought it. very disappointing for Bills family.  The car is not an AMG vehicle, its a Hong Kong import originally owned by the governor of Hong Kong (he must have been balling!).  Its been in WA since the late 90s.  Bill did all the bits himself including getting the speedo plate printed, he made a few for other members too as he was that sort of gentleman.  I wouldn't have valued the car at this by quite a bit, but it was a high 5 figure car and im disappointed his family is not getting the money from the sale evidently.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Gpapaniko on 24 May 2023, 07:45 AM
Quote from: nathan on 23 May 2023, 09:22 PM#5554 must have literally popped up.  This car is synonymous with the forum, previously belonging to Dr William Babe who has some of the seminal posts on the 6.9, including the strut rebuild here.  He passed away two years ago.  I helped his family sell a couple of his cars but a little strangely, they directed the 6.9 to be sold by another who undervalued it significantly, and the buyer has obviously bought it, cleaned it, and thats it.  Now selling it for probably 85k premium on what he bought it. very disappointing for Bills family.  The car is not an AMG vehicle, its a Hong Kong import originally owned by the governor of Hong Kong (he must have been balling!).  Its been in WA since the late 90s.  Bill did all the bits himself including getting the speedo plate printed, he made a few for other members too as he was that sort of gentleman.  I wouldn't have valued the car at this by quite a bit, but it was a high 5 figure car and im disappointed his family is not getting the money from the sale evidently.

Thanks Nathan, I knew you would have the detail on this car. Pity about the aftermarket mods exhaust and wheels.  As optioned and in good running order (excluding the AMG paraphernalia) its AUD$65ish to AUD$75ish I would think, partly because its not an AUSTRALIAN delivered car but otherwise good pedigree it seems

Ive sent the advertising dealer an enquiry to seek further information on the data card, engine bay pics and any documentation about the vehicle's provenance.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: 6.9original on 25 May 2023, 04:09 PM
The car trade ... full of 100% fine upstanding citizens. Why do they bother to blur the number plate, when they're non-transferable club plates, but forget two pics? Knuckleheads.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Gpapaniko on 28 May 2023, 04:14 AM
Quote from: Gpapaniko on 24 May 2023, 07:45 AM
Quote from: nathan on 23 May 2023, 09:22 PM#5554 must have literally popped up.  This car is synonymous with the forum, previously belonging to Dr William Babe who has some of the seminal posts on the 6.9, including the strut rebuild here.  He passed away two years ago.  I helped his family sell a couple of his cars but a little strangely, they directed the 6.9 to be sold by another who undervalued it significantly, and the buyer has obviously bought it, cleaned it, and thats it.  Now selling it for probably 85k premium on what he bought it. very disappointing for Bills family.  The car is not an AMG vehicle, its a Hong Kong import originally owned by the governor of Hong Kong (he must have been balling!).  Its been in WA since the late 90s.  Bill did all the bits himself including getting the speedo plate printed, he made a few for other members too as he was that sort of gentleman.  I wouldn't have valued the car at this by quite a bit, but it was a high 5 figure car and im disappointed his family is not getting the money from the sale evidently.

Thanks Nathan, I knew you would have the detail on this car. Pity about the aftermarket mods exhaust and wheels.  As optioned and in good running order (excluding the AMG paraphernalia) its AUD$65ish to AUD$75ish I would think, partly because its not an AUSTRALIAN delivered car but otherwise good pedigree it seems

Ive sent the advertising dealer an enquiry to seek further information on the data card, engine bay pics and any documentation about the vehicle's provenance.

I sent the advertising dealer an enquiry last week and specifically asked for any material to validate their inference that this is an authentic AMG 6.9.  Following Nathan's background on this car.  I have had no response, which I have never experienced from a dealer on Carsales, so I am guessing no such paperwork exists to back up the AMG provenance of this car.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 28 May 2023, 07:41 AM
Now at $120,000 dollars, i'll attach some pics of the add for future history. you will note in the pics he still had his w116.org grill badge on, I bet many of you didnt know a run of these was made a few years back!  GP, I dont imagine the dealer in their defence, has any clue about the car.  Bill did not do this to his car under any false pretences, he just enjoyed it, the look and did what made him happy.  He never tried to pass it off as an AMG.  From the advert, some muppet has pried off the AMG logo he had on the steering wheel which is a rather sad demise.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 28 May 2023, 07:59 AM
and some pics in days gone by.  The dodge shot, is when I think I considered buying the car around 2001.  It sold to a former forum member Chris M.  This  was before I found my car which I have had 20+ years now.  Then a pic of when I went up to Bills house to get the car started for his family late last year.  I managed to get it going and it pumped up.  Literally the only thing the seller has done since then is bust the logo on the steering wheel and clean it!  The final pic is when I used Bills car in my wedding about 20 years ago, when it had 8 spoke 140 alloys on it. I know this car reasonably well, and I know it does not have any engine mods.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Gpapaniko on 29 May 2023, 07:38 AM
Thanks Nathan for uploading the pics. No issue with what Bill did to the car, the dodgy dealer is another matter.  As a testament to Bill, an unsuspecting buyer would not be suspicious about its AMG pedigree given the careful effort Bill has gone to - pity about the steering wheel centre piece.  While mine is not a 69, it also transported the wife to the our ceremony in March 2022.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: raueda1 on 30 May 2023, 08:53 AM
M100 registry entry for the enjoyment of all.  Cheers,
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: nathan on 17 July 2023, 12:52 AM
6072 wasn't on my radar by VIN, but popped up on car sales (its always nice to find a 6.9 in the country I didnt know about!). An Australian yorkstar car, the seller is the daughter of the original owner which is kind of unique.  350,000km, silver paint on blue leather, it still has its Becker.  It looks like a nice solid example.  They have it at $72,000. No engine shots, or pics if it has the suspension blocks.
Title: Re: Australian 6.9 sales
Post by: Neil4speed on 01 August 2023, 09:54 AM
Wow, quite a find. Also a testament to how good these cars can do with higher mileage if they are cared for.