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Another W116

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oversize

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Re: Another W116
« Reply #30 on: 04 January 2013, 03:23 AM »
Hahahaha!  It's sometimes a quandry with a cheap W116;  to scrap or not to scrap....  Been there myself!    ???;)
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robertd

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Re: Another W116
« Reply #31 on: 05 January 2013, 03:38 PM »
I have found that the best way to store parts from a parts car is to keep them attached to the car. in other words  park it behind the shed until needed.
Rob
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116   1979 450SEL  6.9 # 6225  SOLD
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Re: Another W116
« Reply #32 on: 05 January 2013, 03:57 PM »
I have found that the best way to store parts from a parts car is to keep them attached to the car. in other words  park it behind the shed until needed.
Rob

I certainly found that the other day when I needed some seat bolts for the 450SE.  Much easier just opening the door and taking them out rather than searching through the workshop.
Ken
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W123 1981 280E - Sold
W168 2001 A160 - Sold
W202 1998 C200 - Sold
W164 2007 ML280CDI Update
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W116 1979 280SE (Parts car)

oversize

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Re: Another W116
« Reply #33 on: 05 January 2013, 04:21 PM »
I have found that the best way to store parts from a parts car is to keep them attached to the car. in other words  park it behind the shed until needed.
Rob

I agree!  Take a car apart and it takes up 10 times more room....  My problem is my parts 450 is outside in the weather.  I need two doors and as soon as I take them off the whole interior will be exposed.  I guess I could use tarps like I have in the past....
1979 6.9 #5541 (Red Bull)
1978 6.9 #4248 (Skye)
1979 6.9 #3686 (Moby Dick)
1978 6.9 #1776 (Dora)
1977 450SEL #7010 white -P
1975 450SEL #8414 gold -P

Kjhall65

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Re: Another W116
« Reply #34 on: 05 January 2013, 04:54 PM »
Mine is under tarp outside unfortunately.  Luckily I have all four doors from another donor car so it delays that problem for me.
W114 1973 230/8 - Sold
W123 1981 280E - Sold
W168 2001 A160 - Sold
W202 1998 C200 - Sold
W164 2007 ML280CDI Update
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Re: Another W116
« Reply #35 on: 11 January 2013, 10:39 PM »
The final chapter for this car will end at the scrap yard.  It will prove to be a valuable source of parts as I strip it down over time but it is too far gone for a resto.  The more I dig the more rust I find. 

The final straw came today when I did the inside inspection with a screwdriver.  The floor pan is rusted out in both driver and passenger foot wells, to the extent that I could probably put my foot through the floor without much trouble in more than one place on each side.  The  drivers door is rusted through the entire bottom of the door, extensive rust in the firewall and both sills right along the length of each.

It will be used for its intended purchase but its still a bit sad to see that it has been neglected to such a state.
W114 1973 230/8 - Sold
W123 1981 280E - Sold
W168 2001 A160 - Sold
W202 1998 C200 - Sold
W164 2007 ML280CDI Update
W115 1970 220/8
W116 1976 450SE
W116 1979 280SE (Parts car)

Tony66_au

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Re: Another W116
« Reply #36 on: 11 January 2013, 10:49 PM »
Ahhh well, worth a shot!

oversize

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Re: Another W116
« Reply #37 on: 11 January 2013, 11:51 PM »
At least now you know and you'll learn heaps taking off all the good bits!
1979 6.9 #5541 (Red Bull)
1978 6.9 #4248 (Skye)
1979 6.9 #3686 (Moby Dick)
1978 6.9 #1776 (Dora)
1977 450SEL #7010 white -P
1975 450SEL #8414 gold -P

W116-M117

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Re: Another W116
« Reply #38 on: 12 January 2013, 01:45 AM »
Hamlet's conflict conclusion, I see... I agree, KJ, such a rust diffusion in the body does not ensure that a worse condition could be found if the car would be deeply examined in a workshop.

A friend of mine has a similar problem: 3 years ago an earthquake in Italy (100-150 km East of Rome) obliged him to park his 450SEL outside and during these 3 years the sun, the wind, the snow (yes, snow: it's a mountain zone), the rain and whatever climatic condition hit on the poor car... now he's in trouble to understand if the car can be saved without a dramatic expense...

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Re: Another W116
« Reply #39 on: 12 January 2013, 01:50 AM »
At least now you know and you'll learn heaps taking off all the good bits!

I'm really looking forward to that part of it and learning how it and the systems go together. 

I think I will also get a Mig welder and learn how to weld using it as a test bed. BTW is Mig the go for auto repairs and is there any particular features I need to look out for when choosing one? Gas vs gasless??? Amp range? Etc
W114 1973 230/8 - Sold
W123 1981 280E - Sold
W168 2001 A160 - Sold
W202 1998 C200 - Sold
W164 2007 ML280CDI Update
W115 1970 220/8
W116 1976 450SE
W116 1979 280SE (Parts car)

Tony66_au

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Re: Another W116
« Reply #40 on: 12 January 2013, 04:12 AM »
Gas mig for sure and if you dont want the expense of the $130 ish a year rent on an Argon bottle you can get a nifty little cannister/pressurepak setup.

Gasless uses a flux cored wire which means the welds are dirty and need cleaning similar to a stick/Arc welder welds.

I only go gasless when im welding a gate or similar outside where the argon gets blown away in the wind.

Gas Mig is clean and easier to use once you set it right, and on that note a basic intro to welding course is a great idea.

Kjhall65

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Re: Another W116
« Reply #41 on: 12 January 2013, 04:28 AM »
Thanks Tony, I'll have to look into it all.  What does the gas do and how does it work and how is it connected into the Mig system?
W114 1973 230/8 - Sold
W123 1981 280E - Sold
W168 2001 A160 - Sold
W202 1998 C200 - Sold
W164 2007 ML280CDI Update
W115 1970 220/8
W116 1976 450SE
W116 1979 280SE (Parts car)

Tony66_au

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Re: Another W116
« Reply #42 on: 12 January 2013, 04:50 AM »
Argon is basically a shielding gas that Forms inert atmosphere and allows the mig wire to melt in the plasma stream and meld with what you are welding instead of burning.

This is why it gives clean welds and doesnt blow holes in the job at hand, Gasless mig wire also does this to a degree by burning the flux instead of the wire but it leads to a daggy or dirty weld.

Argon/Argoshield is fed into the welder via a small hose which then feeds it down the welding cable to the gun where it is expelled at the tip where the plasma flame and the wire emerge.

If you use bottled gas you will need to buy a regulator and hose to attach the bottles and its the same setup with the cannister type but with a pinlock style for attaching to disposable cans instead of the POL type fitting for bottles.

Argon is a Noble gas and non flamable and was infact used in fire extinguishing systems in Computer rooms and museums for years as it chokes the fire and leave no residue.

Enough info for you?

Cheers,
Tony

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Re: Another W116
« Reply #43 on: 12 January 2013, 05:04 AM »
A wealth of information as always Tony, thanks.  I prefer to look into these sort of things as an informed customer before I talk to sales types:)
W114 1973 230/8 - Sold
W123 1981 280E - Sold
W168 2001 A160 - Sold
W202 1998 C200 - Sold
W164 2007 ML280CDI Update
W115 1970 220/8
W116 1976 450SE
W116 1979 280SE (Parts car)

Tony66_au

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Re: Another W116
« Reply #44 on: 12 January 2013, 05:23 AM »
My pleasure  ;D

Id invest in a welding course at Tafe before buying a Mig, I plodded away for years before doing the course and even after using one at work for a few years I walked away with some handy tips after the course and the starter units are 3 or 4 hours and well worth the effort.