http://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mercedes-benz-450-se-w116-mit-gasanlage/371515724-216-1195
http://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mercedes-benz-280se-w116-autom-h-zul-historie-2-hd-rostfrei/369999679-216-1674
Or this.. twice the miles, twice as special, half the price..
http://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mercedes-benz-280-s-w116-orignalzustand,-erstlack,-erst-85-000/361661165-216-1596
If it's gonna have to be blue, then this is blue I could live with. (minus the sticker on the door)
http://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mercedes-benz-280-w116-1-hand-oldtimer/371984864-216-8450
For the purists among us. 1st owner car, with a very charming color spectrum.
Not outstanding at all, but parked inside a garage for the last 13 years. No rot, probably available for just over 1000 euros..
It's a running car.
Could be a good base for a (rather cheap) rebuild.
Not sure about the chairs though. Was that purple ever supplied in a light blue car?
a beauty..
http://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mercedes-benz-mercedes-350-se-w116/374073486-216-17005
From first owner, Swiss lady, born 1927
http://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mercedes-benz-s-450se-w116,1-hand,scheckheft,sammlerfahrzeug!/379327417-216-4723
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-450-SEL-/262125027306?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d07de7fea:g:HUUAAOSwKIpWAz8z&item=262125027306
Quote from: floyd111 on 06 November 2015, 08:04 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-450-SEL-/262125027306?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d07de7fea:g:HUUAAOSwKIpWAz8z&item=262125027306
Truly fantastic shape. Not sure if it will get the $32K though but it sure looks tight!
You gotta give the guy point for trying as well!
http://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mercedes-w116-450-sel-braun-4,5ltr-224ps-automatik-8-zylinder/385154008-216-3743
What I would give for those seats..
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-280SE-Modell-W116-orig-83tkm-wunderschoner-Zustand-/221913897207?hash=item33ab1958f7:g:DtUAAOSw~gRVwTzQ
Looks like prices are on the up indeed..
This guy.. he needs advice.. It could work out well then. Gorgeous seats..
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-Benz-280-SE-W116-mit-Orig-80500-Km-/161888009582?hash=item25b146fd6e:g:UIAAAOSweuxWSG2Y
Quote from: floyd111 on 18 November 2015, 12:11 PM
This guy.. he needs advice.. It could work out well then. Gorgeous seats..
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-Benz-280-SE-W116-mit-Orig-80500-Km-/161888009582?hash=item25b146fd6e:g:UIAAAOSweuxWSG2Y (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-Benz-280-SE-W116-mit-Orig-80500-Km-/161888009582?hash=item25b146fd6e:g:UIAAAOSweuxWSG2Y)
Hi Floyd
There are problems with that interior: if photos never show the bolsters (on the front seats) when the seat covering is velours, you can bet your last dollar that they are
always worn or there is a large hole! The door cards are upholstered in series II cloth (plaid pattern). The clips on the door cards are broken, you will notice the M-B factory manual approach to dealing with this i.e. a screw!
You'll be looking with new eyes now
::)
That was kind of what I was saying, with "this guy needs advice"
The car, to me, could be a great basis for a perfect restoration.
Regrettably, he has decided otherwise.
Not outstanding at all, but what do you guys think? Look at these photos, and tell me whether this thing is worth 4500 euros
It's a 6.9 with papers, so it says..
I am very tempted..
Or do 6.9's still pop up at these starting prices?
If the suspension and motor work it's probably worth it. Rust can always be dealt with, unless it's structural, if you're willing to make that investment.
Looks like it's on a French license plate - if it lived down South, the rust may be not that bad. I'd think long and hard about it ;)
This car was originally delivered in Switzerland, there is a import plate "Mercedes Benz Schlieren" near the body plate.
Switzerland and 74 (Haute-Savoie) French license plates : I think it's a very rusty car.
super-shit reupholstery job, but still, it is a 6.9. Motor looks like it hasn't run in a while, so the price is probably fair.
Yeah, the seat covers look identical to those of a Citroen DS. Even the color.
I could find myself visiting that lot, and bring home the SLC that is hiding in the background instead!
Still, I am wondering, is this an exceptional offer, or is this not uncommon?
You know how those guys must feel today feel that walked past a 190SL chassis, 5-10 yrs ago, and left it there, even though it cost only 4000 euros...
Someone should snap this 450SEL up for parts $200 and includes a newly rebuilt engine?
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/cto/5330751932.html
Saw that one a few days ago.
Bloody planet is too big. Shipping and taxes are so much bigger then the cost of that car, but yes, in a different dimension, I'd be tapping that chassis.
http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/auto-s/mercedes-benz/m990639146-mercedes-280-s-1972-w116-lpg-280s-se-oldtimer-43-jaar-oud.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr
Lovely first gen. Shame about the radio, but that's a quick swap. The door panels are a thing of beauty, I think.
Not outstanding and not a W116. Still this Taiwan creation needs to be seen.. ;D
Quote from: floyd111 on 04 December 2015, 03:57 AM
Not outstanding and not a W116. Still this Taiwan creation needs to be seen.. ;D
So that's what happens when a W108 get's rear-ended by an early generation F150!
How lovely. Not.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-280-W-116-1-Hand-66431-Km-Garantiert-/231780028106?hash=item35f72a8eca:g:WlEAAOSwnipWad1G
If it's true.. a 280S, first owner, 65000km, about to be towed for lack of space.
Interior has been stored, to avoid damage, he says. Not important.
If he can prove the mileage, and first ownership, in Europe, that is very, very rare.
But it's a rust bucket.
Rear windscreen is delaminating, a clear indication of leaking seal. Front floors are rusted, and you can see the rust coming out from under the sound deadener. Rear-right passenger door is misaligned, which may indicate a shunt in the past.
The paint being in this state is also worrying. It was either driven a lot, washed a lot and that's the end result; or it's never been garaged which would be even worse. This could happen in Australia in a few years, but not in Germany's climate.
Wheels are non-original. I wonder why if it has been driven as little as the guy claims.
And, looking at the tacho, I have a hard time believing it hasn't been clocked by at least a 100k.
Definitely a parts car.
I'd buy it for the manual gearbox ;)
http://www.automobile.fr/Voiture/x/vhc:car,cnt:,pgn:0,pgs:0,srt:,sro:,dmg:/pg:vipcar/219663287.html
Sadly, I can see how it's being sold way below cost. Looks quite stunning, and is one of the very first hundred. Let's hope it won't end up as a trailer queen. That'd be a waste.
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/sehr-schoener-oldtimer-mercedes-w116-280-s-erste-serie/452379582-216-347
Don't tell me this isn't as charming as can be. Total Povo, first year, no electrics en clearly a car that has seen a life of loving care
It gives me that sense of safety and reliability, as if it will never break down..
Yep, I am delusional, but I guess I'm a romantic.
It doesn't even have automatic transmission! How cool is that. Cult-car
I told the guy to park it somewhere safe and never sell it, haha!
Quote from: floyd111 on 19 May 2016, 08:06 AM
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/sehr-schoener-oldtimer-mercedes-w116-280-s-erste-serie/452379582-216-347
Now, that one is something I'd consider if it doesn't have major rust issues.
Taken care of, it should run forever.
https://www.willhaben.at/iad/gebrauchtwagen/auto/mercedes-benz-oldtimer-6-9-strech-raritaet-62749014/
If i was in germany i would seriously consider..
An outstanding limo...
It is an american car, but what I read is that it was shipped to Germany, and they are going out of business, dumping their stock.
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mercedes-benz-w116-450-sel-6-9-1-hand-/491446732-216-2937
Damn..first owner. Makes for a great start
Quote from: floyd111 on 08 July 2016, 08:25 AM
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mercedes-benz-w116-450-sel-6-9-1-hand-/491446732-216-2937
Damn..first owner. Makes for a great start
Euro bumpers, yet US headlights... someone's not telling the full story.
http://ruylclassics.nl/ClassicCars/mercedes-450se-w116-automaat-november-1973/?taal=EN (http://ruylclassics.nl/ClassicCars/mercedes-450se-w116-automaat-november-1973/?taal=EN)
Looks like I'm in the wrong business.
Quote from: Max-NL on 08 July 2016, 03:53 PM
http://ruylclassics.nl/ClassicCars/mercedes-450se-w116-automaat-november-1973/?taal=EN (http://ruylclassics.nl/ClassicCars/mercedes-450se-w116-automaat-november-1973/?taal=EN)
Looks like I'm in the wrong business.
Nah, don't be fooled. Our beloved W116 cars are worth this kind of money yet. The world is full of dreamers.
I'd say MOST of the W116 aren't worth this much, officially. But, exceptional 6.9's have been selling between 25 and 75000, not?
I would think that a full resto, 1'st owner, non-6.9 should be in that category as well, if not already, then soon.
Let's be honest, how many such cars has anyone seen? Low mileage, yes, 1st owner, yes, full spec, very few, full resto, very few.
Combine those factors, and you should end up with a unique car that did not yet have a price-category created yet.
I don't know. The 116 does not get that much love among the MB fans (let alone the non MB ones) and has some stiff competition. I predict the 126 is a better choice if you are after resale value, so pick one up for cheap while you still can.
Quote from: karmann_20v on 08 July 2016, 11:38 PM
I don't know. The 116 does not get that much love among the MB fans (let alone the non MB ones) and has some stiff competition. I predict the 126 is a better choice if you are after resale value, so pick one up for cheap while you still can.
People can ask crazy money for 6.9s but the reality is no one is buying them for that. Just recently the 109 6.3s have been shooting up in value thanks to Jay Leno but the 6.9 still has a ways to go.
Another huge factor is the Euro 6.9 vs US 6.9. Massive difference between the two.
Quote from: Max-NL on 08 July 2016, 03:53 PM
http://ruylclassics.nl/ClassicCars/mercedes-450se-w116-automaat-november-1973/?taal=EN (http://ruylclassics.nl/ClassicCars/mercedes-450se-w116-automaat-november-1973/?taal=EN)
Looks like I'm in the wrong business.
Looks like they're in the wrong business :D
"Excellent rust free condition", immediately followed by:
(http://ruylclassics.nl/wp-content/uploads/mercedes-450se-w116-automaat-november-1973-02-07-2016/234.jpg)
Quote from: floyd111 on 08 July 2016, 11:10 PM
Let's be honest, how many such cars has anyone seen? Low mileage, yes, 1st owner, yes, full spec, very few, full resto, very few.
I don't really get my head around the 1-owner car obsession. Low mileage makes perfect sense to a degree (little driven cars have their own class of issues), but why does it matter how many owners a car has had, if it's been cared for by all of them and there's records to prove it?
True, especially if you're talking about a full resto. Should not matter in a technical fashion.
I do think however that a clean, singular, well-documented history looks very good though, even better if the 1 owner was someone of importance, and all the paperwork is still with the car.
Still, the rest of the world cares, and that's what counts if we're talking about market value.
One owner is meaningless, receipts are what count.
My 250s is "one" owner, my dad bought it new and then I have taken care of it for 40+ years. It's been driven >200K miles, but I have spent a lot keeping up with the maintenance and care. Car is a good driver, good conditions, but still shows it's age a bit. But I know that all the mechanicals are in proper condition.
On the other hand, I recently was looking at another one owner 250C, peeling paint, rusted floorboards, worn seat, worn dash wood, etc. The delusional owner wanted $10.5K for it. I was thinking $500.
This completely sucks...eveeyone on this forum has a 6.9 except me... :-\
Help!
Quote from: Malaysian on 09 July 2016, 11:05 AM
This completely sucks...eveeyone on this forum has a 6.9 except me... :-\
I have a 450SE. The 6.9 never appealed to me because of its über-complexity and exorbitant maintenance costs. Apart from the smooth suspension, it really isn't that much better then the smaller V8s.
dont worry Malaysian, not everyone has one...
Yeah, 450SEL 4.5 here as well. But then again, I am not in the 116 for future value reasons.
Truth be told, I test drove a great 450 SEL before I bought my 6.9 and the ride on the 450 SEL is not bad at all. If you don't need the extra power then the 450 SEL is a very nice car. But there simply is no comparison when you put the pedal to the metal, then the 6.9 is in a league of it's own without a doubt ;D
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-450SEL-6-9/371691525263?_trksid=p2050601.c100085.m2372&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140211132617%26meid%3D97412c025dee4ec4a8c3f0399a5a324e%26pid%3D100085%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D272324600317%26clkid%3D7192187547101812381&_qi=RTM2247626
I hope he gets the asking, but I doubt it.
My pet peeve is why cant anyone get the hoses for the headlight/windshield washer correct, and also the line under the 6.9 emblem is suppose to be paint black. (as is the line under the 450SEL if you have one.)
Very nice but no way it'll go for that. Sadly I think the w116 has been passed over in the appreciation stakes. Time to start buying nice R107's boys. They are going to hit the stratosphere soon...
This car has been for sale since last winter if I recall correctly (last summer for you Aussies out there). Yeah, it likely won't sell for anything more than $10,000-$15,000 at this point in time.
Daantjie, the R107 cars won't see stratospheric prices for another 10-15 years, likely longer. There were far too many of them made, and far too many still exist. At this point in time, supply exceeds the demand, so prices will remain next to nothing for a while. The R107, like the W116, is an acquired taste, and isn't for everyone. Consequently, I suspect that the R107 will go down the same path the W116 has. The most expensive R107 that I've recently seen sold was a 12,000 original mile 560SL. It sold to one of my customers only 9 months ago, and he only paid $15,000 for it. They're certainly advertised for much more, but they never sell. I think a lot of people expect the R107 to follow the path of the R113. While the idea is novel, it's like comparing apples to oranges. There is just no comparison.
Agreed on R107. They made them for 18 long years. There are heaps and heaps of them out there. Every baby boomer with a little bit of money that didn't want a Corvette bought one and hung onto it thinking it was going to be some investment vehicle. It's hilarious to see beat up 560SLs with 100k miles and a ton of flaws asking $18,000. These people are all out of their minds.
They made just under 49,000 W113 Pagodas and then made over 300,000 R107s! They only made 214,000 R129s.
My take on this is that there should be ways to sell R107's at top dollar, but as anyone, would you not want to know what your buying?
I was just offered one for 27000euros.
It took 2 sentences to have that drop to 20000.
15000 is now in sight, and I am not having it. Sure, he's got some bills for a heap of parts that he changed at top dollar, but why is his reckless shopping my problem? Could have been done at half the price, IF these bills are real.
And what about everything else that has not been changed? What's under the paint job?
You wanna sell a car at top dollar that only had fixed what was broken, you're delusional, for it leaves everything else to break tomorrow.
That is where W116, R107, and even a W123 are not part of the elite.
A Pagode is rare, and even a bare chassis has incentives left. After a -documented/intelligent- rebuild, the market has room for profit and error.
The other cars mentioned do not.
The problem for now is not that a W116 can not sell for 25-75 thou. The problem is that you need to supply a car that is offered with full restoration-documentation. That costs a bundle, and hardly leaves a margin for profit.
The average W116/R107 owner is much focused on making it look good, and keeping it on the road. That gives these models a bad rep.
And in that light, you can't blame anyone for not pumping 30-50 thou in such a car.
My take is that besides the market situation described, it's the abundance of so-so W116's that are keeping the better ones from rising above the hoi-polloi. Catch-22.
No Stan. There is no room for profit on a Pagoda after restoration. A restoration will cost $100,000-$200,000 depending on how far you want to go. When it's all said and done. the Pagoda is still worth only $50,000-$60,000, likely less since the Pagoda market is getting really soft as of late.
And a Pagoda is not a rare car by any means. As Harv mentioned, there were nearly 50,000 Pagodas made, and over half of them still exist. So there's arond 25,000 right there that are still around. Remember that in the automotive world, rare is considered to be + or - 500 units that either were initially made, or that still exist.
Partially true, at least.
Fixing a Pagoda in your area no doubt costs twice what it costs in some other parts of the world.
Also, there are many ways to score parts and leaving that job to a third party is surely for those with seriously disposable income.
That said, I have not done it myself, and the price of pagoda parts is pretty insane.
I am way to chicken and too poor to venture into that territory, that much is sure. Not if I was planning a profit, whilst suffering from automotive OCD
Surely, if 25000 units is not considered rare, the W116, or the R107 don't stand a chance in that aspect.
But, I stand by the other half of my theory. Some of these cars ARE fetching great prices, but only some.
Guess that those are the very few cars that ARE rebuilt to a spec where profit is no longer possible, but the builders have (hopefully) been able to retrieve their investment.
I am not counting on a profit with my trailer queen. Even if I were to charge minimum wages for my invested hours, I'd be at a loss.
I DID manage to buy 2 complete cars in NOS parts for an end-price that beggars belief, if you don't count those minimum wage hours, haha!
The deal I have with the workshop is a rare one, a difficult and slow one, and it involves me doing the vast majority of all the non-mechanical work.
It is not for the faint of heart, but it allows me to have my chassis re-done and rebuilt at Taiwan-cost price, which is probably factor 5 cheaper than where you are at.
Yes, and even then, I am not counting on profit. I just want this one on a page in my book of life.
Come to think of it.. I may need therapy as well.
Guys, back to my point. As I mentioned NICE R107's as in low mileage ones (old lady type) owner with FSH. If you sniff one out for low 20's or even teens now you will be laughing in a few years. I am not talking about the shoddy ones or failed resto here.
Quote from: UTn_boy on 01 August 2016, 11:18 PM
When it's all said and done. the Pagoda is still worth only $50,000-$60,000, likely less since the Pagoda market is getting really soft as of late.
Maybe in the US it is so, not so much in Europe.
A good Pagoda will fetch upwards of 40000EUR, the best examples reach twice that easily in asking prices. The R107s are cheaper, but they're also possibly the single most popular model in the UK. Whether they're worth anywhere near that kind of money is a question of demand and supply. People are importing R107s from the US, part restoring them and most likely still making a good profit (why else would they do it?).
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mercedes-benz-280-se-w-116-wie-neu-alles-original/533799603-216-2831
http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/auto-onderdelen/overige-onderdelen/m1097127892-mercedes-280s-w116-bj-1972-lpg-1500-euro-koppakking-stuk.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr&pos=21
I wonder how early a VIN number this is..
In the meantime, there is this one. Seller is under pressure to offload it.
Is it just me, or does this one really look mint?
http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/auto-s/oldtimers/m1096570509-nette-mercedes-280-se-w116.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr&pos=39
Very nice condition and very clean. Are you thinking about a third 280SE Stan ?
One can't help but dream a bit, but no. ;D
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mb-450-se-w116-erstlack-ungeschweisst-absolut-original/572372370-216-1023
Would be interesting to know how this ends.
Quote from: floyd111 on 19 December 2016, 05:54 AM
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mb-450-se-w116-erstlack-ungeschweisst-absolut-original/572372370-216-1023
Would be interesting to know how this ends.
It may be original, but it's also low-spec - cloth interior, steel wheels, no aircon, no power windows.
For our car's sake I hope it'll sell for the 22k, but good luck to the seller.
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mb-450-sel-6-9-w-116-teilerechng-ueber-53485-dm-von-mb-vorhanden/574052577-216-3811
55.000 DM in bills? Now there could be a story..
Quote from: floyd111 on 22 December 2016, 07:49 PM
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mb-450-sel-6-9-w-116-teilerechng-ueber-53485-dm-von-mb-vorhanden/574052577-216-3811
55.000 DM in bills? Now there could be a story..
His 350SEL looks like less of a potential endless money pit though ;)
..word! :o
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mercedes-w116-s-klasse-leichenwagen-rappold-bestattungswagen/597466930-216-16666
An original W116 Rappold-built hearse. The rarest of the Coach-builders, and by far the best looking. Great flowing lines.
Quietly weeping coz I can't have it myself, but there is simply no legal way in Taiwan to get it licensed. -or I would, in a heartbeat!
It has a partition wall between front seats and the rear and the curtains are still good. No special options, it started life in 1976 as a PoVo.
Owner says the engine has been swapped to a 350SE, 10 yrs ago, and then went to storage indoors for a decade. No visible rust in the pics and he says he has not seen anything seriously wrong with the metal anywhere. Friendly enough guy on the phone, clearly not a professional car seller.
Hope someone picks it up, or it will end up at the scrappers, and that would be a sin.
Watch this car, when it was lent out to an artist for an MTV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzcReJdNfDQ
Rappold built 2 models W116 hearse. In this video, around the 05.55 mark you will see the second, more popular version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSv-IhTZAM8&list=PLA9D50E7FB978E6E6&index=3
And here, around the 0.30 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYYIlvE5Mao&list=PLA9D50E7FB978E6E6&index=6
Here you can see the 2nd Rappold on the inside.. same owner as before. He gets around!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvL5VJJ7wAE&index=7&list=PLA9D50E7FB978E6E6
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/treebay-ad.html?id=v1%7C232248448208%7C0
Earliest W116 I have ever seen..
Quote from: floyd111 on 21 February 2017, 07:42 PM
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/treebay-ad.html?id=v1%7C232248448208%7C0
Earliest W116 I have ever seen..
Some wild claims in that ad, and I wonder if the owner has any documentation to back it up.
Also, a it seems the restoration was half-arsed and bondo-laden.
Changing gearbox oil and filter doesn't count as restoration, that's normal servicing! I wonder how that car was cared for in service then.
It's maybe worth half the asking price.
Even if it is the very first W116 sold to public, it still is a 280S in the most common colour combination, and with basic equipment spec.
I don't see anything outstanding about it :)
I thought that such an early VIN in itself would be valuable?
Besides that I would not even read or believe written details without seeing the car in person, and I would say: nobody should, haha!
Early and late VIN's have no monetary bearing on a cars value past intrinsic value.
The only 2 VIN that would have any value would be #1 and whatever the last one was. Even at that not much.....
Quote from: UTn_boy on 26 February 2017, 04:52 PM
Early and late VIN's have no monetary bearing on a cars value past intrinsic value.
As a W116 owner, I guessed we'd need all the intrinsic value we can get. 8)
Indeed. However, it's important to remember that intrinsic value does not equal monetary value.
I was looking at a great E320 W124 recently, with a manual sportline Getrag 5-speed. All was great, apart from the fact the seller imagined this is some super rare thing and was asking twice the reasonable market value of a car in that condition.
Simply put, rarity as such only matters if it's real. Why should I care to pay a premium for a "rare" feature, where the feature made n% of the 65k units produced? :)
If it were one, or two cars ever - that's unique. But I'm weird that way ;)
I could just as easily claim that my 450 is unique and super rare, just because it's likely to be one of the very best on the globe in terms of mechanical/body condition. But would anyone actually care, if there's thousands other cars to choose from?
I would!
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/450sel-6-9-w116-abs-ssd-klima-el-rueckbank/610014724-216-16475
Electric back seat.. First one I have encountered in a car on sale.
Quote from: ptashek on 01 March 2017, 07:23 AM
I was looking at a great E320 W124 recently, with a manual sportline Getrag 5-speed. All was great, apart from the fact the seller imagined this is some super rare thing and was asking twice the reasonable market value of a car in that condition.
Simply put, rarity as such only matters if it's real. Why should I care to pay a premium for a "rare" feature, where the feature made n% of the 65k units produced? :)
If it were one, or two cars ever - that's unique. But I'm weird that way ;)
I could just as easily claim that my 450 is unique and super rare, just because it's likely to be one of the very best on the globe in terms of mechanical/body condition. But would anyone actually care, if there's thousands other cars to choose from?
I agree on all points, Lucas, and I'm of the same mindset. Though, one fact that people seem to often overlook is the criteria that makes a care actually rare. The general rule in the automotive world for being qualified as rare is +/- 500 units that were either originally produced, or +/- 500 units that remain. For example, We simply can't claim that a 600 or a 190Sl are rare. Too many were made, and far too many still exist.
Stan, I enjoyed seeing this highly optioned car you posted about. One the 6.9 cars I have has the electric rear seat adjustment, too, and with rear seat heating, as well. It's a sight to behold. :)