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ptashek

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Re: And then there was this outstanding W116..
« Reply #30 on: 19 May 2016, 09:30 AM »
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/sehr-schoener-oldtimer-mercedes-w116-280-s-erste-serie/452379582-216-347

Now, that one is something I'd consider if it doesn't have major rust issues.
Taken care of, it should run forever.
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Re: And then there was this outstanding W116..
« Reply #32 on: 06 July 2016, 12:49 AM »
If i was in germany i would seriously consider..

An outstanding limo...
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Re: And then there was this outstanding W116..
« Reply #33 on: 06 July 2016, 06:48 AM »
It is an american car, but what I read is that it was shipped to Germany, and they are going out of business, dumping their stock.

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Re: And then there was this outstanding W116..
« Reply #35 on: 08 July 2016, 10:52 AM »
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mercedes-benz-w116-450-sel-6-9-1-hand-/491446732-216-2937

Damn..first owner. Makes for a great start

Euro bumpers, yet US headlights... someone's not telling the full story.
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Re: And then there was this outstanding W116..
« Reply #37 on: 08 July 2016, 03:38 PM »
http://ruylclassics.nl/ClassicCars/mercedes-450se-w116-automaat-november-1973/?taal=EN
Looks like I'm in the wrong business.

Nah, don't be fooled.  Our beloved W116 cars are worth this kind of money yet.  The world is full of dreamers. 
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Re: And then there was this outstanding W116..
« Reply #38 on: 08 July 2016, 09:10 PM »
I'd say MOST of the W116 aren't worth this much, officially. But, exceptional 6.9's have been selling between 25 and 75000, not?
I would think that a full resto, 1'st owner, non-6.9 should be in that category as well, if not already, then soon.
Let's be honest, how many such cars has anyone seen? Low mileage, yes, 1st owner, yes, full spec, very few, full resto, very few.
Combine those factors, and you should end up with a unique car that did not yet have a price-category created yet.

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Re: And then there was this outstanding W116..
« Reply #39 on: 08 July 2016, 09:38 PM »
I don't know. The 116 does not get that much love among the MB fans (let alone the non MB ones) and has some stiff competition. I predict the 126 is a better choice if you are after resale value, so pick one up for cheap while you still can.

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Re: And then there was this outstanding W116..
« Reply #40 on: 08 July 2016, 11:16 PM »
I don't know. The 116 does not get that much love among the MB fans (let alone the non MB ones) and has some stiff competition. I predict the 126 is a better choice if you are after resale value, so pick one up for cheap while you still can.

People can ask crazy money for 6.9s but the reality is no one is buying them for that. Just recently the 109 6.3s have been shooting up in value thanks to Jay Leno but the 6.9 still has a ways to go.

Another huge factor is the Euro 6.9 vs US 6.9. Massive difference between the two.
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Re: And then there was this outstanding W116..
« Reply #41 on: 09 July 2016, 02:36 AM »
http://ruylclassics.nl/ClassicCars/mercedes-450se-w116-automaat-november-1973/?taal=EN
Looks like I'm in the wrong business.

Looks like they're in the wrong business :D

"Excellent rust free condition", immediately followed by:
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ptashek

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Re: And then there was this outstanding W116..
« Reply #42 on: 09 July 2016, 02:46 AM »
Let's be honest, how many such cars has anyone seen? Low mileage, yes, 1st owner, yes, full spec, very few, full resto, very few.

I don't really get my head around the 1-owner car obsession. Low mileage makes perfect sense to a degree (little driven cars have their own class of issues), but why does it matter how many owners a car has had, if it's been cared for by all of them and there's records to prove it?
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Re: And then there was this outstanding W116..
« Reply #43 on: 09 July 2016, 03:54 AM »
True, especially if you're talking about a full resto. Should not matter in a technical fashion.
I do think however that a clean, singular, well-documented history looks very good though, even better if the 1 owner was someone of importance, and all the paperwork is still with the car.

Still, the rest of the world cares, and that's what counts if we're talking about market value.

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Re: And then there was this outstanding W116..
« Reply #44 on: 09 July 2016, 06:32 AM »
One owner is meaningless, receipts are what count.

My 250s  is "one" owner, my dad bought it new and then I have taken care of it for 40+ years. It's been driven >200K miles, but I have spent a lot keeping up with the maintenance and care. Car is a good driver, good conditions, but still shows it's age a bit. But I know that all the mechanicals are in proper condition.

On the other hand, I recently was looking at another one owner 250C,  peeling paint, rusted floorboards, worn seat, worn dash wood, etc.  The delusional owner wanted $10.5K for it.  I was thinking $500. 
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