Author Topic: 350se vs Diplomat V8 vs 733i vs XJ 4.2  (Read 7131 times)

John Hubertz

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Re: 350se vs Diplomat V8 vs 733i vs XJ 4.2
« Reply #15 on: 08 February 2006, 05:53 AM »
People,

Thanks for generating such stimulating discussion of the issues affecting "our" Marque and our future as enthusiasts.

I believe that this thread should be forwarded to the principal senior managers of product development and the new president of MB Worldwide.

The bottom line is that "we" Mercedes lovers want simple, durable, safe and technically excellent vehicles.  We believe that technical excellence is a matter of design, and has nothing whatsoever to do with Navigation Systems, Seat and Mirror memory or the ability of the car to remind us not to open the convertible top at 100KPH in the rain.

Mercedes have traditionally been a car that empowers the owner - a Land Rover of the road - a car that can be driven from here to Central America without taking a trunkful of spares and a list of servicing distributors, be rinsed off, used to take the President of that country to dinner, and then be driven home without pause.  A car that Gordon can use to haul a trailer of woolies from the Outback all the way to Sydney, and then improve the probability of his being asked for a ride home from the Country Club by a person whos BMW won't start.  (maybe even a female person!)

Read the Car&Driver article (1978?) about the drive from New York to Road Atlanta, a full-on track test, and then a return trip.  In ONE new 6.9, on ONE set of tires, with ONE set of brakes, without ONE quart of oil or ATF or "check engine" warning light.  That folks, is what Mercedes-Benz ownership is all about.

John
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Re: 350se vs Diplomat V8 vs 733i vs XJ 4.2
« Reply #16 on: 08 February 2006, 06:17 AM »
Hi OzBenzHead

Getting to the point :

Paul Bracq got to ride/drive one last year. The power is great but the body design...he feels...is  "trop banal" ... not much good to say about it.

As for the interior design....hmm...he says the same as you do  ;D

Denis

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Re: 350se vs Diplomat V8 vs 733i vs XJ 4.2
« Reply #17 on: 08 February 2006, 02:44 PM »
... "we" Mercedes lovers want simple, durable, safe and technically excellent vehicles.  We believe that technical excellence is a matter of design, and has nothing whatsoever to do with Navigation Systems, Seat and Mirror memory or the ability of the car to remind us not to open the convertible top at 100KPH in the rain.

Mercedes have traditionally been a car that empowers the owner ...

John: So well put. Hear! Hear! (Are you listening, Stuttgart?)

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Re: 350se vs Diplomat V8 vs 733i vs XJ 4.2
« Reply #18 on: 08 February 2006, 08:15 PM »
I think this is the reason why we all like our W116 so much - the last MB to be solid and simply engineered without the complications of technology, electronics and especially gadgets. I hear that new MBs have cup holders! Bah, who needs them! ;D
Michael
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Re: 350se vs Diplomat V8 vs 733i vs XJ 4.2
« Reply #19 on: 08 February 2006, 08:33 PM »
I hear that new MBs have cup holders!

Is that what they are?!  And here was I thinking thinking they be dvd-player trays.  No wonder the vids wouldn't play!  :o

John Hubertz

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Re: 350se vs Diplomat V8 vs 733i vs XJ 4.2
« Reply #20 on: 09 February 2006, 04:35 AM »
I am aghast.  No CUP holder?

Aaack!  Where on Earth will Luvvy and I place our Mint Juleps while cornering?  (sip)

Colonel John Hubertz
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PS:  Gordon will appreciate the fact that both the Governor and Lieutenant Governor who signed my commission have both subsequently been defrocked and served Federal Prison Time for aggregious offenses against the moral fiber of the general population of the great state of Kentucky - which frankly, in my experience, must be protected as there is probably insufficient moral fiber to spare....  It would be difficult to locate enough of it in Kentucky to make a decent car cover.  A fact I fully support. 

I cannot wait to see the words "Welcome to Indiana" in my rearview mirrors.

PPS:  The Governor was arrested once for attempting to fly his helicopter while intoxicated.  Probably was disoriented by the lack of cupholders.



PPPS:  Perhaps I should do my drinking in the back seat y'all?  A silver flask would fit neatly in the mesh seat pocket....
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Re: 350se vs Diplomat V8 vs 733i vs XJ 4.2
« Reply #21 on: 10 February 2006, 08:13 PM »
IColonel John Hubertz
Honorable Order of Kentucky Colonels
Date of Commission: October 19, 1989

John, your a Kentucky Colonel? I dated a girl who's brother was one...
With best regards

Al
Dallas, TX USA.

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Re: 350se vs Diplomat V8 vs 733i vs XJ 4.2
« Reply #22 on: 11 February 2006, 04:26 AM »
Yep! I'm a Kentucky Colonel.

And while we're getting personal....  guess where I go to church?

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Re: 350se vs Diplomat V8 vs 733i vs XJ 4.2
« Reply #23 on: 13 February 2006, 04:12 AM »
I'm offended!!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just kidding,  that's bloody funny.  Was that from a Canadian MB site or Danish?
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