280" Concourse; Diary of a layman

[floyd111]

What's the part number for the 15" Fuchs?

[floyd111]

What's the part number for the 15" Fuchs?

I just ran a few checks.. At my own sources, I am literally paying less than HALF of what Mercedes Classic is selling for on their other wheels. (according to their website)
Having that 15" part number really could pay off.

[ptashek]

What's the part number for the 15" Fuchs?

A1264002202, should be in the EPC too.
It was a barely known dealer installed option from mid-1970s, and production ceased in 1985.

You can read more about it here: http://www.classiccarstodayonline.com/2013/12/04/classic-mercedes-fans-15-inch-versions-of-the-original-14-inch-bundt-style-wheels-from-1969-85-are-out-there-heres-how-to-find-them/

I can't remember if mine are OEM or ATS, but there's hardly any difference anyway.

Edit: This is how mine look off the car


..and on the car (with 205/65 R15 Dunlop tyres)

[s class]

Those are ARC-Alurad 7Jx15et23

[floyd111]

Ha, you beat me to it by 30 seconds. Just found the number myself. A1264002202
A set of 4 costs 1270 euros, new from MB.

Houston, I'm going in!

..Well, maybe next month.
Paypal has been slamming the door in my face 8 times this week.

[ptashek]

Those are ARC-Alurad 7Jx15et23

Maybe, can't say for sure as the wheels are with the car, 2400km away.

[ptashek]

A set of 4 costs 1270 euros, new from MB.

You have access to some shady sources
Normally they're around 500EUR each.
The cheapest I've seen, ex-VAT, were 420EUR each.

[gavin116]

Perhaps this will help, taken from: http://www.sl113.org/wiki/WheelsTires/Alloys

[floyd111]

Update on the OEM parts supplier (S) I spoke of.
A first list with parts, final prices and quantities was received.
I will publish this one in a few days.
To my opinion, all the prices are top notch.

A second list is available, with prices only (no quantities yet)
These are prices that may be good to some people, but not for me

This is the second list:
A0008261xxx      indicator   left/right               36,=
A0014207820   brake pads      25.55
A0018214951   window switch      69.35
A0018215051   window switch      69.35
A0018215151   window switch      47.45
A0209972547   seal ring      10.95
A1108840098   fender seal      4.38
A1163300018   KIT.CASTER      51.1
A1164701475   FUEL HOSE      18.25
A1164701575   FUEL HOSE       32.85
A1165860188   GRILLE STAR KIT W116      47.45
A1167200016   CHECK STRAP.FRONT & REAR W116   each   76.65
A1167300280   O/S/R DOOR MOULD SE      18.25
A1167580098   BOOT RUBBER S CLASS      98.55
A1168000378   VACUUM VALVE BLUE & BLACK      14.6
A1168300431   HEATER CABLE      32.85
A1168301543   DASH VENT      80.3
A1168302070   CONDENSER - 280 MODELS -116      255.5
A1168303315   A/C HOSE-COMPRESSOR TO CONDENSOR 116-280      109.5
A1168800383   GRILLE ASSY      262.8
A1168800470   FRONT BAR CENTRE      208.05
A1168840948   N/S LWR HEADLAMP PANEL      15.33
A1168841048   O/S LWR HEADLAMP PANEL      15.33
A1168850240   O/S/F BAR BRACKET      10.95
A1168880185   GARNISH MOULDING      14.6

Prices in USD, non-negotiable. (I tried! This is as low as they'll go on THESE parts.)
Shipping is excluded. No need to tell you that shipping-more means shipping-cheaper.
For location, it is not in the USA, nor in the UK. Please stand by for details.
Any deals will be between YOU and the seller. I simply gave my Scout's honor I would help them offload.

For you guys that have V8's, and already sent me a wish list, please stand by. I still need to process those lists for pricing and accuracy.

Now, there is suddenly a second supplier. I spoke to him for a long time. He is in the USA, and completely off the radar, sitting on a few warehouses with new/old MB parts.
He is tired of his obsessive NOS hobby and wants to offload the lot. Presently he has no visible offload channels.
He has no time or incentive to inventorize his stocks. But, he is willing to let me have a list of the his nearest-to-him 30 NOS parts, each time around.
Each time we offload that list, there's a new list.
I received guarantees that prices will each time be cheaper than any source anywhere. Lots of NLA stuff as well.
But, shipping will have to go through me, unless someone is able to buy the whole 30-part list in one go.
Your man there has no time to be sending off rivets and bolts to Joe in Montana.

I am doing this so I can yet have another source allowing me to restore my 2-3 W116's without breaking the bank.
It helps the .ORG members as well, I would think.

Now.. if I have to ship parts to Taiwan first, there is a non-refundable 16% import fee, plus shipping. That does not improve pricing
I do not mark anything up, so I have no problem passing the buck.
Basic message: If you want the best of deals, try and get the whole list, each time I publish. That way you can deal direct with the USA.

[floyd111]

Update for Karmann:

A1166700039      SEAL REAR SCREEN W116                  $76.23
A1166710020      SEAL FRONT SCREEN W116                  $61.00
A0008261957      indicator                                                 42

[karmann_20v]

Update for Karmann:

A1166700039      SEAL REAR SCREEN W116                  $76.23
A1166710020      SEAL FRONT SCREEN W116                  $61.00
A0008261957      indicator                                                 42

Thanks, that is not bad at all.

So my understanding is that out of the rest of the list I sent you, with more specific V8 parts it's still possible to get some prices later on?

Cheers!

Also looking forward to the NOS US source and details on the parts. I will send you an IM later on.

[floyd111]

Yes, you can pick part numbers from this list underneath, and simply send me an .xls with the numbers you want info about.
You will find some of these have already been priced in the list above.
Mind you all these items are volitile in nature. The seller has other customers. Things disappear.
Also, there has been some confusion on their side whether the door and window seals are OEM or aftermarket.
They need to do a visual warehouse check first.

This is the complete list to (potentially) choose from:

116 320 00 30   SHOCK ABSORBER.FRONT W116
116 320 13 28   LOWER B/JOINT SUIT HYD.STRUT
116 320 45 13   STRUT.REAR S/L.W116/W/C123/W126
116 326 15 65   TORSION BAR(EX GERMANY)
116 330 00 18   KIT.CASTER
116 330 00 51   KIT FRONT WHEEL BEARING W116/W123 NO ABS
116 330 01 75   KIT LOWER INNER CONT ARM
116 330 09 42   FRONT SUSPENSION X MEMBER
116 330 90 07   L/H/F LOWER CONTROL ARM
116 330 91 07   R/H/F LOWER CONTROL ARM
116 333 01 17   BUSH SWAY BAR W116
116 333 04 43   KNUCKLE
116 333 06 74   CASTER BOLT
116 333 09 27   BALL JOINT LOWER W116/123/126
116 333 40 14   BUSH.UPPER OUTER CONTROL ARM W126
116 333 56 15   BUSH - CROSS MEMBER
116 333 63 14   BUSH.UPPER INNER CONTROL ARM W116/W123
116 410 00 31   UNIVERSAL JOINT(CROSS)ALL 68-85+LATE 126
116 420 01 05   BRAKE DISC FRONT EARLY R107
116 420 02 05   BRAKE DISC FRONT VENTED 116/107
116 428 00 85   PIPE HOLDERS
116 463 10 10   STEERING ARM
116 470 02 16   FUEL DAMPER
116 470 14 75   FUEL HOSE
116 470 15 75   FUEL HOSE
116 470 26 75   FUEL HOSE
116 470 27 75   FUEL HOSE
116 470 52 75   FUEL HOSE
116 490 15 15   CENTRE EXHAUST -350/450SEL
116 492 01 41   EXHAUST BRACKET
116 501 04 82   RADIATOR HOSE BOTTOM 3.5 COUPE.108/111
116 501 07 82   HOSE RAD.TOP.W108/W109 3.5 V8 ONLY
116 501 25 82   HOSE.RAD TOP ALL W116.350/450 V8
116 501 34 82   HOSE RAD TOP R107-350/450SL/SLC
116 503 00 01   COVER.AIR COND FAN (SUIT 0005007993)
116 505 01 55   FAN SHROUD ALL 116.020/024/025-280S/SE/L
116 505 03 55   FAN SHROUD 350/450/SE/SEL ALL V8 NOT 6.9
116 542 00 07   SPEEDO CABLE W116
116 542 03 07   SPEEDO CABLE W116 280-450
116 586 01 88   GRILLE STAR KIT W116
116 616 00 20   ACCELERATOR PEDAL HINGE
116 616 03 42   BOOT FLOOR EXTENSION
116 620 08 86   LWR  RAIL INNER
116 623 00 19   A/C FAN BRACKET
116 637 02 31   BRACE
116 670 00 39   SEAL REAR SCREEN W116
116 671 00 20   SEAL FRONT SCREEN W116
116 671 07 30   MOULD.LOWER SCREEN.W116 (FRONT)
116 678 03 30   FRAME - NSR WINDOW
116 678 04 30   TRIM(EX GERMANY)NOF
116 680 02 35 8246   SCUFF PLATE
116 682 00 26   BONNET INSULATION W116
116 689 06 89   RHF A PILLAR MOULD
116 690 00 18   CLIP PILLAR MOULD
116 690 03 80   N/S BEAVER PANEL MOULD
116 690 04 80   O/S BEAVER PANEL MOULD
116 690 08 80   O/S DOG LEG MOULD
116 690 19 80   MOULDING.CENTRE BOOT(BEAVER)W116
116 698 01 80   N/S SILL MOULD(CHROME)"SE"
116 698 01 89   MOULD
116 698 02 21   PAD
116 698 02 30   MOULD
116 698 02 80   O/S SILL MOULD(CHROME)"SE"
116 698 02 89   MOULD
116 698 04 80   O/S SILL MOULD SEL
116 698 06 89   RHF A PILLAR CHROME MLD
116 698 07 89   TOP BEAVER PANEL COVER W116
116 720 00 16   CHECK STRAP.FRONT & REAR W116
116 720 19 46   N/S/F WINDOW REG.MECH.
116 728 01 30   N/S/F WAIST MOULD
116 728 01 31   MOULD
116 728 02 30   O/S/F DOOR WAIST MOULD
116 728 02 31   MOULD
116 728 03 31   DOOR FRAME MOULD
116 728 04 31   DOOR FRAME MOULD
116 730 01 78   N/S/R DOOR RUBBER SE
116 730 02 78   O/S/R DOOR RUBBER SE
116 730 02 80   O/S/R DOOR MOULD SE
116 730 03 80   N/S/R DOOR MOULD SEL
116 730 04 78   O/S/R DOOR RUBBER SEL
116 730 04 80   O/S/R DOOR MOULD SEL
116 730 21 05   L/H/R DOOR SHELL W116-SE
116 730 21 46   N/S/R WINDOW REG.ELEC.T123/W123/W116
116 737 01 82   MOULD
116 737 04 82   MOULD
116 738 04 30   O/S/R BELT MOULD SEL
116 738 05 31   N/S DOOR FRAME MOULD
116 750 05 75   BOOT LID
116 758 00 98   BOOT RUBBER S CLASS
116 766 01 11   ESCUTCHEON
116 782 01 17   SUNROOF DRAIN TUBE
116 800 02 75   VACUUM ELEMENT BOOT
116 800 03 78   VACUUM VALVE BLUE & BLACK
116 800 04 73   VACUUM SWITCH(3WAY VALVE) R/H/F DOOR
116 810 00 17   INTERIOR MIRROR
116 810 02 16   O/S MIRROR
116 810 03 16   N/S MIRROR
116 817 12 15   TYPE DESIGNATION"450SE"LATE FROM  053003
116 820 03 45   WIPER BLADE (450MM BLACK)
116 820 04 45   WIPER BLADE              P
116 820 40 61   O/S HEADLAMP W116
116 830 04 31   HEATER CABLE
116 830 04 83   RECEIVER DRIER  6.9
116 830 05 83   RECEIVER DRYER W116.350-450
116 830 14 15   A/CON  LINE
116 830 15 43   DASH VENT
116 830 18 70   CONSENSOR- 350/450 MODELS-116
116 830 20 70   CONDENSER - 280 MODELS -116
116 830 27 70   CONDENSOR.A/C W116.450SEL 6.9
116 830 33 15   A/C HOSE-COMPRESSOR TO CONDENSOR 116-280
116 831 02 94   HOSE
116 831 04 94   HEATER HOSE
116 831 19 94   HEATER HOSE
116 835 00 71   RECEIVER DRIER
116 836 02 65   PLENUM GRILLE
116 880 00 14   REAR BAR BRACKET LH & RH
116 880 00 16   REINFORCEMENT FRONT BAR
116 880 01 18   N/S FRONT GUARD
116 880 01 70   FRONT O/RIDER N/S
116 880 01 82   N/S/F GUARD MOULD
116 880 02 18   O/S FRONT GUARD
116 880 02 59   BONNET CABLE
116 880 02 70   FRONT O/RIDER O/S
116 880 02 77   BONNET HINGE R/H
116 880 02 82   O/S/F GUARD MOULD
116 880 02 97   GRILLE KIT INC.SEAL,BLUE BADGE,SCREWS ETC.
116 880 03 71   N/S REAR BAR END
116 880 03 83   GRILLE ASSY
116 880 04 70   FRONT BAR CENTRE
116 880 05 70   N/S FRONT BAR END
116 880 08 71   O/S REAR O/RIDER
116 881 00 01   LOWER APRON PANEL
116 881 01 32   N/S BONNET MOULD
116 881 02 32   O/S BONNET MOULD
116 881 03 32   N/S EYEBROW MOULD (GUARD)
116 881 04 32   O/S EYEBROW MOULD (GUARD)
116 884 00 48   FRONT STONETRAY(GRAVEL TRAY)UPPER
116 884 09 48   N/S LWR HEADLAMP PANEL
116 884 10 48   O/S LWR HEADLAMP PANEL
116 885 00 21   BAR RUBBER-FRONT MAIN L & R
116 885 00 23   REAR BUMPER BAR JOINER L & R W116
116 885 01 21   BAR RUBBER-FRONT OVERRIDER L & R
116 885 01 23   L/H/F BUMPER BAR JOINER W116
116 885 01 40   N/S/F BAR BRACKET
116 885 02 21   BAR RUBBER FRONT & REAR W116
116 885 02 23   O/SF BUMPER BAR JOINER W116
116 885 02 40   O/S/F BAR BRACKET
116 885 03 21   BAR RUBBER OVERRIDER L & R
116 885 03 40   N/S/F BAR BRACKET
116 885 04 40   O/S/F BAR BRACKET
116 885 05 40   N/S/F BAR BRACKET
116 885 06 40   O/S/F BAR BRACKET
116 888 00 17   STAR BASE
116 888 00 97   GRILLE GASKET(SEAL)
116 888 01 85   GARNISH MOULDING
A1159970681
A0004635132
A0004661304
A0008241827
A0008241827
A0008261957
A0008262057
A0009888181
A0009902292
A0009902292
A0009977694
A0014207820
A0018214951
A0018214951
A0018215051
A0018215051
A0018215151
A0018215151
A0019887681
A0019887681
A0024770601
A0024770601
A0065453924
A0209972547
A0437502047
A1074600061
A1087820198
A1087820198
A1101860007
A1101860007
A1108840098
A1108840098
A1152671250
A1159920310

[floyd111]

Well, if it rains, it pours..
While my chassis is in queue at the bodyshop and my engine disassembled on a worktop on the second floor, my mechanic from New orleans was struck with homesickness. He has given us a month' notice, which was nice, but you imagine the headache now.
Tonight we have a Skype interview with a new, potential mechanic from Finland, but in the meantime I am not a happy camper.

At this point I need to call out to anyone willing to spend a few months here and save this project from disaster.
This would be a pretty fixed-terms, temporary job, type of thing.
The sole job would be to re-assemble the car.
Work does not start until after the chassis has been done, and after the engine has been done, and after all the MB parts required are literally on pallets, next to the car, awaiting assembly and installation.
Makes for a cracking, all expenses paid adventure.
Any takers?

[floyd111]

Still no new mechanic in sight, and the clock is ticking on my old mechanic.
But we keep going, as if it's all gonna be allright.
The job of tracking down all the MB parts in 2 units W116 is not for the faint-hearted. It is unbelievalble i am still bumping into car parts that surely belong in a W116, but I never seen before.
Even after all this time.
The mountain of parts that have come in since last time I posted pics is pretty big, and too many to post.
But, I'll highlight a few that stood out. They are not so much always items that are fixed to the car, but I also want to dress the interior with items that would/could have been lying around in the car, back in 1972. Stuff that people commonly had lying around in the boot, the mid console or in the glove compartment.
off course, they need to be new-in-the-box and era-exact where possible.

[floyd111]

The Hella emergency lamp comes in many new(er) models. The 2897 is from the correct era.

The black switch is the handbrake dashlight switch. It is NLA and was a tough one to find.  I was happy to get 2 of them cheaply.

The black relay is a sensor for the tempomat system. Again, NLA, and needs some digging and patience to find one that's new. I found 4 in 3 places around the world.The Tempomat system requires 2 different sensors, according to the original specs. Apparently, these 2 numbers now are one and the same.
Going price is 43 usd to 59 euros

Next item is a connection bracket for the Tempomat system. Another NLA item that can be tedious to find.
I got 2 new ones from Spain

Then there are the manual airco switches. Easy to get second-hand, but as a long-time NLA item, very hard to find new. I got 2 in one go, and another one I can part with, new.