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Tachometer accuracy

Started by 3l33ter, 20 July 2018, 06:59 PM

3l33ter

Today I was curious about my tach so I decided to take a measurement and check it against a calculation. I turned on my GPS and I got the tach needle to point exactly at 2500rpm, and my GPS read 58mph. (My speedometer doesn't work.)

I calculated the tire radius of my 205/70/14 tires
205mm * 0.70 * 1in/25.4mm + 14in/2 = 12.65" ... round it down to 12.5" to account for about 1% squish (arbitrary)
4th gear, so 1:1 (correct?)
I have physically seen the 3.69 stamp on my differential

rpm = (1 rot / 2pi rad) * 3.69 * (58mph * 63360in/mi * 1hr/60min) / (12.5")

I get 2877rpm. So is my tach off by almost 400rpm? Or perhaps by a %? I just wanted to check in with the experts here and see if w116 tachometers are known to be inaccurate or if there is a problem with my gauge. Or some other part.

Or my math.  ::)
'75 280S
'77 6.9
'82 300TD

rumb

you lost me at "I calculated"   :)

does any of this data help?
https://tiresize.com/tiresizes/205-70R14.htm
'68 250S
'77 6.9 Euro
'91 300SE,
'98 SL500
'14 CLS550,
'16 AMG GTS
'21 E450 Cabrio

raueda1

Can't comment on tach accuracy on these cars.  Your math looks reasonable to me, though I didn't rework it all to be sure.  But I really think that's a kind of Rube Goldberg way to come at it.  I say this especially in light of the fact that I just ordered a old tach/dwell meter off ebay for about $15 incl shipping.  I'm using it for ignition work.  For these older cars it's a worthwhile investment IMO and they don't seem to make them anymore.
-Dave
Now:  1976 6.9 Euro, 2015 GL550
Before that:  1966 230S, 1964 220SE coupe, 1977 Carrera 3.0

3l33ter

That's a handy link there, I'll bookmark that one, thanks!

raueda1, good idea, thanks!
'75 280S
'77 6.9
'82 300TD

s class

I think your assumption of 1% 'squish' is probably way short of what it actually is. 


[color=blue]'76 6.9 Euro[/color], [color=red]'78 6.9 AMG[/color], '80 280SE, [color=brown]'74 350SE[/color], [color=black]'82 500SEL euro full hydro, '83 500SEL euro full hydro [/color], '81 500SL

3l33ter

#5
If I make the squish 0%, the rpm calculates out to 2845 while my gauge reads 2500.

If I make the squish anything higher, the rpm goes higher (and further from the gauge reading). Realistically I think the squish is somewhere between 1-5% based on some reading around on the web.
'75 280S
'77 6.9
'82 300TD

ptashek

The most accurate approach would be hooking up an oscilloscope, or a simple digital counter to the TD pin on the ignition module. This is where the RPM signal for the tachometer comes from.

The signal is a square(ish) wave.
On the V8, at idle it should be around 47Hz, and about 390Hz at M117 redline of 5800rpm.
1993 "Pearl Blue" W124 280TE
1988 "Arctic White" W124 200T
1979 "Icon Gold" W116 450SE

3l33ter

Cool, I didn't know where the signal came from so I'll see if I can borrow an oscilloscope.

For now, I downloaded a strobe light app, and I was going to put a white paint mark on my crank and try to match the strobe frequency to the engine speed, then compare it to the tach. I need a helper so hopefully I can con someone into helping this weekend :)
'75 280S
'77 6.9
'82 300TD