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Blighty450SEL

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« on: 05 July 2005, 10:42 AM »
Hi all!

Just agreed to buy a '77 450SEL and the wheels and tyres are rubbish so I need the PCD offset etc of the wheels so I can go alloy shopping...

any ideas??

thanks in advance :)

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« Reply #1 on: 05 July 2005, 01:49 PM »
HI Blighty450SE and welcome to the forums!

For some help with your question I direct you to the 'monologue' in the topic titled New Wheels at  http://forum.w116.org/viewtopic.php?t=20.

Basically, you need an offset ranging from 25 to 11. You should be able to find some nice after-market wheels to fit your car, otherwise, you may be interested in simply looking for a set of wheels off a newer 123, 107 or 126 where you will often find the later models with 15" wheels with the correct offset and bolt pattern.

All later model MBs have an offset too high and some even have a different bolt pattern.

Let us know what you find and choose.

Regards,
Michael
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Blighty450SEL

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« Reply #2 on: 06 July 2005, 10:10 AM »
Thanks a lot mate that really helps me as the wheels and tyres on the car are well past their best...I like the AMG style you eventually went with...very nice :)

Having a look at some later alloys with the higher offset and am thinking about making some spacers so that they will fit.


Ill post a picture when I get the car of before and after and you can let me know what you think :)

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« Reply #3 on: 06 July 2005, 04:42 PM »
With spacers, just be aware that they need to be hub-centric. It is the hub and not the bolts that bear the weight of the car on the wheels. Also, I believe spacers are illegal in Australia which says something about their reliability (probably just when not fitted correctly).

You should be able to find plenty of used and new wheels that fit without spacers. I went with AMGs for originallity but I also know of plenty of others makes too. If I was buying again, I would have a closer look of the MB 15 hole wheels that were original equipment on the 126 and later model 107 which would be a perfect fit with 15x7 wheels.

Your other best bet for wheels is just looking on eBay. There are plenty of wheels in Germany suitable for our 116. I considered this but luckily found some locally.

Good luck with your search and keep us updated as to the wheels you are looking at.
Michael
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« Reply #4 on: 13 July 2005, 10:55 PM »
Is there a photo on this site of your 450SE with those AMG wheels?
sigh....sitting back contemplating the next purchase..!

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« Reply #5 on: 13 July 2005, 11:23 PM »
My car with the AMGs can be seen in my post at http://forum.w116.org/viewtopic.php?p=102#102. I will also get around to posting more photos in the gallery. I know I have been saying I'll do this soon but I will. Hopefully I'll have time this weekend :)
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« Reply #6 on: 26 July 2005, 10:55 AM »
Well I have taken the plunge on some crazy gold spoked Player alloys!

17" knock off hubs...they will need some minimal spacing but a mate of mine who works in a tool shop has said he will make me up some hubcentric spacers to do the job :)

They should be on the car in a couple of weeks now and then Ill post some pics up :)

On a total side issue I have had to get a starter ring gear for my flywheel as the original has teeth missing....making starting very interesting!!

also I have an idling problem caused...I think by stretched springs in the distributor as the car runs great elsewhere and the rotor arm doesnt seem to advance or retard fully on the spring action as you would expect...

Just a few teething problems before the car goes to the GAS man for an LPG conversion then into daily service for the old girl :)

Ill keep you updated as things progress :)

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« Reply #7 on: 26 July 2005, 04:50 PM »
Sounds great. Keep the updates coming!
Michael
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