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Started by floyd111, 23 September 2015, 12:28 AM

Jed

UTn_boy

I was able to remove the flange fittings from my 67 300sel which have screw on hose connectors and move them over to the new compressor which had flange fittings with smooth hose connectors (that I imagine you would simply clamp a hose on).  The gaskets were a little different but from whatI can tell it should seal fine.  Time will tell when I take it to get charged.  Both compressors BTW were 209.  Now I need to get a new AC drier and maybe an expansion valve??

I attached a couple pics of my old compressor. Looks like one of the two connecting rods failed and blew a hole out of the side of the case.  All the debris APPEARS to remain in the lower half of the compressor body and not above the two pistons which are still intact and hopefully not in the hoses/system.


1979 Mercedes 6.9 #5206 - restored
1979 Mercedes 6.9 #6424 - ongoing restoration
1976 Mercedes 6.9 #484 - restoration?

UTn_boy

The first thing I'd do is flush the evaporator, condenser, lines, and make sure that the screen in the expansion valve isn't clogged.  Catastrophic failures like this merit such actions.  Just because the large debris remained in the bottom doesn't mean that small particulate debris didn't enter the rest of the system. 

If you buy a new expansion valve, it'll be calibrated for R-134A.  If you're using R-134A that's fine, just don't expect any temperatures below 50-60 degrees F out of the vents.  On hotter and more humid days, it'll be even worse.  However, if you're using R-12, then try to use your old expansion valve.  They can be taken apart and cleaned.  Regarding the 209 compressor, it seems someone may have replaced it in the past, as they were supposed to have 210 from new.  The 209 will work just fine.  Just remember to put a little less refrigerant in  when you charge it.  :)
1966 250se coupe`,black/dark green leather
1970 600 midnight blue/parchment leather
1971 300sel 6.3,papyrus white/dark red leather
1975 450se, pine green metallic/green leather
1973 300sel 4.5,silver blue metallic/blue leather
1979 450sel 516 red/bamboo

Jed

Thank you Sir for the reply.  All good advice I intend to follow.

jed
1979 Mercedes 6.9 #5206 - restored
1979 Mercedes 6.9 #6424 - ongoing restoration
1976 Mercedes 6.9 #484 - restoration?


rumb

What's with all the Germans that refuse to ship to the USA? I see it all the time.  Like it's any harder than  shipping to any other country??

Shipping: No shipping to United States of America -
'68 250S
'77 6.9 Euro
'91 300SE,
'98 SL500
'14 CLS550,
'16 AMG GTS
'21 E450 Cabrio

ptashek

Quote from: rumb on 24 March 2017, 06:11 AM
What's with all the Germans that refuse to ship to the USA? I see it all the time.  Like it's any harder than  shipping to any other country??

Shipping: No shipping to United States of America -

Many Germans won't even ship outside the country, or accept payment via PayPal; some accept wire transfers. I've been buying there for at least 20 years now, and I still don't understand why it's this way. Germany still has a largely cash-based retail economy, which may be a factor here.

I had much better success buying from private individuals on eBay Kleinenzeigen, then from professional sellers on eBay proper.
1993 "Pearl Blue" W124 280TE
1988 "Arctic White" W124 200T
1979 "Icon Gold" W116 450SE

tcj

easy to understand:
When shipping packages to outside the EU you have to declare the contents, find out Customs Tariff Numbers
for every part. Its time consuming and not a pleasure to send out packages into the world.
And doing this for the first time makes a lot of headaches.

paypal: just received a payment of 350€ from Australia (sold some W112-parts). Paypal took 19€
out of this envelope. Any questions?
Wiring money within europe costs: 0€

112.021
113.042
116.028
116.036

floyd111

Those rules apply to commercial shipments, sent via Cargo companies, and they are a real drag indeed.
However, no such hassle when private people send stuff via mail or courier, and also no such hassle if companies send small shipments via mail or courier.
As long as you are not asking to have VAT minussed, it should be smooth sailing.

I can't single out German suppliers, big or small, for any other reasons but the fact that I buy a lot from Germany, and therefore will bump into German simpletons once in a while.
Could say the same about the USA, where -also- one in 10 people won't ship abroad.




Jed

1979 Mercedes 6.9 #5206 - restored
1979 Mercedes 6.9 #6424 - ongoing restoration
1976 Mercedes 6.9 #484 - restoration?

rumb

'68 250S
'77 6.9 Euro
'91 300SE,
'98 SL500
'14 CLS550,
'16 AMG GTS
'21 E450 Cabrio

Jed

There it is in the PDF, so I guess its a real w116 part....yes I bought it.  $35

the spare funnel filter looks like it cost nearly that much....it was too "vintagey" for me to pass up.  I've never seen one.

Its been on ebay for a week or so I guess
1979 Mercedes 6.9 #5206 - restored
1979 Mercedes 6.9 #6424 - ongoing restoration
1976 Mercedes 6.9 #484 - restoration?

floyd111

Saw it to, when it was listed first. Let it slide, not sure it would have been right for my own collection, me not being a mechanic and all.
Does the gizmo have a part number on it?

rumb

pn is listed on pdf, dont know about on funnel
'68 250S
'77 6.9 Euro
'91 300SE,
'98 SL500
'14 CLS550,
'16 AMG GTS
'21 E450 Cabrio

Jed

Yes there is a part number stamped on the funnel in the photos.  matches the number in the pdf.
1979 Mercedes 6.9 #5206 - restored
1979 Mercedes 6.9 #6424 - ongoing restoration
1976 Mercedes 6.9 #484 - restoration?

floyd111

https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/mercedes-benz-w116-v8/634260070-216-7714

This car is gonna end up in the dump. Seems there is a Minimax under the front seat. may be worth checking out!