Having degreased the engine components, I have discovered that one of the three sump hoses is weeping and somewhat lumpy in appearance near the terminated portion:
(http://gallery.w116.org/dl/19043-4/sump+hoses.jpg)
They are $1300 from the stealership (for all three, mind you). I wonder if anyone has explored any alternatives?
Tim
A couple of my hoses are seeping a little. I intend to remove the sump at some stage to fix an oil level dependent leak, about the only possible place remaining where oil could be escaping. When I get round to it I'll take all three to one of the hydraulic hose shops, Enzed or Pirtek, get them to remake them using the my existing ends, because the existing ends look nice :)
koan
i was going to say enzed as well,.
ps, like the use of the term 'lumpy'!
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That's awesome news... it sounds like it should be fairly straight-forward to replace them. While I'm at it, I'll also get my High Pressure P/S pump hose done as well.
Tim
My engine oil tank was very cruddy. When it was stripped and cleaned, we discovered that it had some fairly deep rust on the outside surface. In two or three places, there were pinprick holes right through, obviously the source of the leaking. I had the holes braized up.
I think you need to buy a new one in order to replace the old fittings. Furthermore, better be sure that you buy a quality product so as to last long. You can check some online stores for the said matter.
Yes, I ended up using a special type of reinforced hose... This was normally used for truck air brakes.
I have observed no leaks whatsoever at those hoses, so it was a very successful replacement.
Tim
after a big service on the 6.9 (timing chain, pads and fluids, trans fluids etc), the mechanic noticed one of my hoses of the sump is leaking. he said it was number 100 180 00 82. detali doesnt have the engine epc so i could check for hoses. are there three of these identical hoses or how many of these things come off the sump? if im going to get it replaced, i may as well go the whole lot unless ridiculously expensive. how much did enzed cost TJ?
nathan
Nathan,
To have the hoses replaced at Enzed was $180 from memory, but that was with all three removed from the car, and they are all different diameters if I remember correctly.
I'd get a quote from the Classic Center first off, a set of new ones (only available as a set) may not be too bad.
Tim
Quote from: nathan on 26 November 2010, 05:08 AM
he said it was number 100 180 00 82. detali doesnt have the engine epc
It does, click on "1. Car", then instead of scrolling down to 116.036. click on "M Motor" and there are all the engines.
That number is for the three hoses and rubber triangular support.
From memory the three hoses have three different diameter fittings.
I had my hoses redone, not happy, they made a mess of one of the gold ends. Also hose available now is not the same OD for the required ID and is a bit smaller, it works but doesn't look the same.
Think I read on m100.cc the hose set is available again but from the picture the ends aren't the gold ends, they are the ends Enzed or Pirtek have for the correct ID hoses, silver in colour.
koan
thanks for the heads up guys. great tip koan.
TJ, i get the suspicion they are likely to be around 500. not too bad if its for all 3. il wait to hear from Tom
thanks
nathan
I've got a set from Tom sitting in my parts pile. Nowhere near $500, but not cheap either. I don't have access to my parts purchase worksheet from work (damn security Nazis), but I think it was around $200US for the set???
thanks WB,
quoted 430. better than i thought but not cheap! still, as Koad, probably better original than unsatisfactory cheaper aftermarkest!
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I paid about $400 over a year ago from Tom for US delivery.
Funny how my memory tends to halve the prices paid for things over time. Hell, if I wait long enough, I remember stuff has having been nearly free......
the hoses turned up today. part number 100 180 00 82.
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3898/p1010533y.jpg)
(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/264/p1010532ki.jpg)
I've not compared my new set that's still in the spare parts bin to those on the car. How do these compare to the originally-installed parts?
ill tell you next time i get run over by a 6.9 with the hydro up.
seroiusly, not too sure as havent looked lately but believe they look pretty darn similar!
ahhhh - humor (or is it humour?) - so that's why they call Austraila "down under"???? ;)
I am just curious from the "originality police" standpoint. These are MB-made parts, and I wonder if they took the time to duplicate the originals, down to the plating on the ferrules, etc.
THey are close, but not exact. Those in the picture have zinc plated crimped collars. The collars on the originals are more like an adonized yellow finish, and they are smooth, ie without fluting from the crimp tool.
They are a bit more heavy duty than the originals.... As s class mentioned, the original ones have anodized aluminium collars.
Quite frankly, these new ones appear superior, even though the anodizing would have looked slick.
Also, the original hoses have a rough texture.
Tim
those new version hoses will never leak again with those kinds of fittings.
Looks like they did something right for once 8)
This is an old thread that's come back to life, the entirety of it is worth a read.
My hose were repaired, new hose but using the old screw on ends but I suspect one is already leaking. either that or leftover oil after chain tensioner leak fix. Possible reason is the new hose is smaller OD and doesn't fit the ferrule very well.
I have a spare set of old hoses, I might take them off and get a price to make up a set using current size hose and appropriate crimp on ferrules.
As I mentioned before the current ferrules look identical to the pictured set and as MT says they will seal for life if they are crimped correctly.
koan