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TJ 450

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Dry Sump Hoses
« on: 09 July 2008, 09:39 PM »
Having degreased the engine components, I have discovered that one of the three sump hoses is weeping and somewhat lumpy in appearance near the terminated portion:



They are $1300 from the stealership (for all three, mind you). I wonder if anyone has explored any alternatives?

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Re: Dry Sump Hoses
« Reply #1 on: 09 July 2008, 11:17 PM »
A couple of my hoses are seeping a little. I intend to remove the sump at some stage to fix an oil level dependent leak, about the only possible place remaining where oil could be escaping.  When I get round to it I'll take all three to one of the hydraulic hose shops, Enzed or Pirtek, get them to remake them using the my existing ends, because the existing ends look nice :)

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Re: Dry Sump Hoses
« Reply #2 on: 10 July 2008, 02:42 AM »
i was going to say enzed as well,.
ps, like the use of the term 'lumpy'!
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Re: Dry Sump Hoses
« Reply #3 on: 10 July 2008, 03:05 AM »
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Re: Dry Sump Hoses
« Reply #4 on: 10 July 2008, 07:14 AM »
That's awesome news... it sounds like it should be fairly straight-forward to replace them. While I'm at it, I'll also get my High Pressure P/S pump hose done as well.

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Re: Dry Sump Hoses
« Reply #5 on: 10 July 2008, 09:48 AM »
My engine oil tank was very cruddy.  When it was stripped and cleaned, we discovered that it had some fairly deep rust on the outside surface. In two or three places, there were pinprick holes right through, obviously the source of the leaking.  I had the holes braized up. 

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Re: Dry Sump Hoses
« Reply #6 on: 04 September 2010, 09:21 AM »
I think you need to buy a new one in order to replace the old fittings. Furthermore, better be sure that you buy a quality product so as to last long. You can check some online stores for the said matter.
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Re: Dry Sump Hoses
« Reply #7 on: 04 September 2010, 07:11 PM »
Yes, I ended up using a special type of reinforced hose... This was normally used for truck air brakes.

I have observed no leaks whatsoever at those hoses, so it was a very successful replacement.

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Re: Dry Sump Hoses
« Reply #8 on: 26 November 2010, 02:08 AM »
after a big service on the 6.9 (timing chain, pads and fluids, trans fluids etc), the mechanic noticed one of my hoses of the sump is leaking. he said it was number 100 180 00 82. detali doesnt have the engine epc so i could check for hoses. are there three of these identical hoses or how many of these things come off the sump? if im going to get it replaced, i may as well go the whole lot unless ridiculously expensive.  how much did enzed cost TJ?
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Re: Dry Sump Hoses
« Reply #9 on: 26 November 2010, 03:08 AM »
Nathan,

To have the hoses replaced at Enzed was $180 from memory, but that was with all three removed from the car, and they are all different diameters if I remember correctly.

I'd get a quote from the Classic Center first off, a set of new ones (only available as a set) may not be too bad.

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Re: Dry Sump Hoses
« Reply #10 on: 26 November 2010, 03:43 AM »
he said it was number 100 180 00 82. detali doesnt have the engine epc

It does, click on "1. Car", then instead of scrolling down to 116.036. click on "M Motor" and there are all the engines.

That number is for the three hoses and rubber triangular support.

From memory the three hoses have three different diameter fittings.

I had my hoses redone, not happy, they made a mess of one of the gold ends. Also hose available now is not the same OD for the required ID and is a bit smaller, it works but doesn't look the same.

Think I read on m100.cc the hose set is available again but from the picture the ends aren't the gold ends, they are the ends Enzed or Pirtek have for the correct ID hoses, silver in colour.

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Re: Dry Sump Hoses
« Reply #11 on: 26 November 2010, 05:30 AM »
thanks for the heads up guys. great tip koan.
TJ, i get the suspicion they are likely to be around 500. not too bad if its for all 3.  il wait to hear from Tom
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Re: Dry Sump Hoses
« Reply #12 on: 29 November 2010, 09:14 AM »
I've got a set from Tom sitting in my parts pile. Nowhere near $500, but not cheap either. I don't have access to my parts purchase worksheet from work (damn security Nazis), but I think it was around $200US for the set???
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Re: Dry Sump Hoses
« Reply #13 on: 30 November 2010, 03:30 PM »
thanks WB,
quoted 430. better than i thought but not cheap! still, as Koad, probably better original than unsatisfactory cheaper aftermarkest!
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Re: Dry Sump Hoses
« Reply #14 on: 30 November 2010, 08:13 PM »
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