Changing AC compressor

[beagle2022]

Hi team,
My York compressor on my '79 m110 is making horrible noises.  Rather than repair it I am thinking of changing the compressor to a rotary one.  I have sourced the factory bracket for the rotary units that were fitted right at the end of the w116.
Any clues or wisdom on what compressor to source? I noted an earlier thread where someone fitted a cheap, light and efficient Nippondenso unit with great success.
My car is never going in a concourse, so I am not too worried about authenticity.  Given Aussie summers, my main concern is comfort and efficiency.
All guidance welcome!
And Happy Christmas one and all!

[hagar24]

Hi team,
My York compressor on my '79 m110 is making horrible noises.  Rather than repair it I am thinking of changing the compressor to a rotary one.  I have sourced the factory bracket for the rotary units that were fitted right at the end of the w116.
Any clues or wisdom on what compressor to source? I noted an earlier thread where someone fitted a cheap, light and efficient Nippondenso unit with great success.
My car is never going in a concourse, so I am not too worried about authenticity.  Given Aussie summers, my main concern is comfort and efficiency.
All guidance welcome!
And Happy Christmas one and all!

I am at the same criss road as my compressor won't turn by hand with no belt but the clutch still engages when you put power to it, can it be repaired, is it worth repairing, decisions decisions.

[floyd111]

OK, I think I know this one..
If you have a York, you'll need to keep the York, lest you find/transplant the pullies in exactly the right size, so you can keep the RPM's required for the compressor to function properly.
In this country, where airco is common as rice, not a single company I checked was able to get the right size pully for such swap.
Instead, I spent my efforts importing cheap, used Yorks and sourced new viscos.
My bottleneck, as was explained in my other post, are the compressor repair kits I now desperately need to find somewhere.

[UTn_boy]

Stan, here are a few links to what you'll need to rebuild a York.  If you need crankshaft bearings you should be able to source those locally by using the numbers off of the old ones.  Before you rebuild one, I recommend checking the compression on it first.  The rings, pistons, and cylinders are usually within tolerable specs for further service.  Otherwise, it's less expensive to buy a new one. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/210-209-YORK-COMPRESSOR-GASKET-KIT-W-METAL-GASKETS-AMC-FORD-MERCEDES-/311498265848?hash=item4886be54f8:g:0tUAAOSwHQ9WYF8w&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-YORK-206-209-210-A-C-COMPRESSOR-6-BOLT-SHAFT-SEAL-KIT-/150780752145?hash=item231b3bb111:m:m2zV2mRUo4sStEhmyFOkECw&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Factory-Air-by-4-Seasons-New-York-209-210-Compressor-w-Clutch-58022-/161474585366?hash=item2598a2a316:g:au0AAOSw1XdUWpat&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-AC-YORK-COMPRESSOR-BODY-W-TUBEO-TO-ROTOCLOCK-ADAPTER-/131131779734?hash=item1e88102a96:m:mRwNqxSYUDkdidexN2J0XIA&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Klimakompressor-Magnetkupplung-York-208-209-210-fur-Mercedes-W-107-123-124-116-/272055195089?hash=item3f57c0d5d1:g:yKsAAOSw8-tWWZ2v&vxp=mtr

While the Sanden is preferable, if your M-110 engine is a catalyst version, you'll have to remove the catalyst, change the exhaust manifolds, and relocate the oil dipstick a little further rearward to allow for fitment of the Sanden.  However, being in Australia, I'm not sure if catalysts were used in the late 1970's or not. 

[floyd111]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Klimakompressor-Magnetkupplung-York-208-209-210-fur-Mercedes-W-107-123-124-116-/272055195089?hash=item3f57c0d5d1:g:yKsAAOSw8-tWWZ2v&vxp=mtr
is a double groove visco. w116 is single groove. Also, the visco is 6", and should be 6.5" preferably
Luckily, I am sorted for Visco's.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/210-209-YORK-COMPRESSOR-GASKET-KIT-W-METAL-GASKETS-AMC-FORD-MERCEDES-/311498265848?hash=item4886be54f8:g:0tUAAOSwHQ9WYF8w&vxp=mtr
that looks like the job!. ordered!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-YORK-206-209-210-A-C-COMPRESSOR-6-BOLT-SHAFT-SEAL-KIT-/150780752145?hash=item231b3bb111:m:m2zV2mRUo4sStEhmyFOkECw&vxp=mtr
Ordered!

Now how come that in all these months, I was unable to find any of this stuff? I do this for a living! Silly, silly.

About the replacement compressors, those I have found before, and walked away. Not only have I got made-in-china trust issues, but I would not want aftermarket parts that large in a Concourse car.
Still, great tips! Thanks!

[UTn_boy]

Well, I believe you can still get the clutch from Mercedes for around $500.  I only put that one link in with the wrong clutch because it was a good 4seasons brand.  The clutch can always be removed anyway. 

I've never had any problems finding parts for these yorks. I wonder of Taiwan has filters on what you can look for and search for? 

[floyd111]

No, I circumvent all ebay server filters worldwide with simple tricks, and Taiwan does not have internet filters, unless you use mandarin-language yahoo, especially designed for finding mandarin sites.
I simply missed out on typing all the right keywords, instead looking for W116-york  specific keywords

[ronw123w124]

Been there done that, my W116 originally came with a York compressor but by the time I got the car, the compressor was already stuck up frozen, having done the same previously on my W123 and 300SD W126, I elected to do the same on my 280S and also upgraded the condenser to parallel flow type from a Mazda 3 and also added another auxillary fan up front instead of a single auxillary fan set up hat came from the factory. My A/C system was just sorted out 2 days ago and I'm satisfied with it. The Sanden compressor is really a lot more effecient than the ancient York compressor

[UTn_boy]

Ah ok.  Well, when you need to find York compressor parts on ebay or the like, use search terms like "York 210R", or "York 210 rebuild kit", etc.  Our W116 cars that have the M-110 engine with a York compressor should all utilize the York 210R.....the "R" indicating that it's a right hand suction compressor.  The "210" part has meaning, too.  The "2" tells us that it's a two cylinder model, and the "10" is the displacement.  In this case, it's 10 cubic inches. 

[s class]

or R210R where the additional "R" means rotolock connections. 

[floyd111]

That is all very interesting data.

However,...  W116 should all have the 210R", is a bit worrisome. Can it be confirmed that "they all do"? There was never a VIN-split?

[UTn_boy]

thank you, SCLASS.  That is a very important bit of information since most of the M-110 york set up's used the rotolock connection. 

[s class]

AFAIK, all 280 models were equipped with York R210R. 

All v8 models were equipped with Delco A6.

It really is that simple. 

[UTn_boy]

I thought so, but then I've seen an M-110 engine that had flange type fittings on the York, too.  But who knows if that was a subsequent installation or not?

A few years ago, I parted out a couple of W116 V-8 cars that were European delivered.  Neither one of them had the Frigidaire/Delco A6.  They had something that resembled a Sanden.  I was told that set up was for subsequent installations of A/C systems.....but what a job that would be.  The bracket is completely different, but isn't some cheaply made bracket either.  It fits the M-117 like a glove, and the "sanden like" compressor fits and lines up perfectly.  Does any one know about this set up?  I'm just more curious than anything. 

[s class]

Ive done a as-per-factory retrofit of A/C in a W114 not originally equipped with A/C.  It was a hell of a task, involving dash out, complete wiring harness transplant.