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Becker Mexico Cassette '77 Bluetooth Upgrade

Started by Alex, 02 May 2024, 08:10 PM

Alex

So I have a '77 280SE (Aus Delivered) with the factory Becker Mexico.
The Mexico is thankfully, fully functional with all seeking AM/FM functions working and cassette functionality.

However, I still want to have the option for bluetooth functionality on a switch (or automated one).

I did find this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/294723236823?itmmeta=01HWXX4Z29Y6CKG3GZYP5XJGW2&hash=item449edfb3d7:g:cXUAAOSwk2lfnFZ8

And other similar ones that use the 7-8 pin connector at the rear of the stereo. Do they work through this connector only? How does this connector work? From my understanding- this connector allows me to connect an audio input midway after the stereo and before the amp. This should retain functionality for the original radio.

TLDR:
Anyone got experience with upgrading bluetooth onto the Becker Mexico? Or experience with any of the other aftermarket bluetooth adapters using the 7-8pin adapter at the rear of the stereo?

Cheers.
77' 280SE Classic White (198,000km)

mrkozzy

Same thought process.
Following this article with interest.
MrKozzy

ptashek

No personal experience here, but looking at the schematic I have on file for the Becker, your understanding seems right. The socket hooks right into the amplifier stage, and is described as "socket for record player or cassette recorder (stereo)". The adapter I'm guessing simply decodes the digital Bluetooth audio into an analog stereo audio input for the amp.
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Alex

Welcome gents, I have since received a reply from the owner of the company roughly explaining the device. (For the Becker Mexico Cassette - It may be different for a Europa or other systems.)

Here is the purchase link:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265827133506?itmmeta=01HWZHKTV7NSHSTAX7VRM9PYPY&hash=item3de4882842:g:v9MAAOSw~dZhnXnK

So this one should plug into the rear "Din" port for control, the radio functions as normal until sound is played through bluetooth.

As far as I'm concerned it works through a relay, which switches off when your phone disconnects or the volume is down.

I am still contacting the guy to find out whether or not the volume is controlled through the original volume knob or the phone.

Shall update when I find out.
77' 280SE Classic White (198,000km)

Max-NL

Volume should be controlled through the radio, as the accessories which used that connection (external cassette player, trafic decoder) do not have volume control. This is handled via the radio.
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nathan

before any solutions were available, I decided to devise the most complicated way humanly possible to have bluetooth and hands free powered by my Becker. behold!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSOtJ-sal5E&t=9s
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Alex

Quote from: Max-NL on 06 May 2024, 05:49 AMVolume should be controlled through the radio, as the accessories which used that connection (external cassette player, trafic decoder) do not have volume control. This is handled via the radio.

Yeah can confirm through a second source that this is the case, so that's good.

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Quote from: nathan on 06 May 2024, 08:44 AMbefore any solutions were available, I decided to devise the most complicated way humanly possible to have bluetooth and hands free powered by my Becker. behold!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSOtJ-sal5E&t=9s

That's you!?!?

I saw that in my research. Fantastic job mate. My soldering skills are still, ok- at best.
I may try the off-the-shelf solution and report back.
77' 280SE Classic White (198,000km)

JP

280S - Becker Monza owner here, I decided against using these 6-pin adapters and went for an alternative/cheaper solution. Installed a 12v lighter socket in a round hole of the steel frame on the left side of the trunk, and plugged a FM Bluetooth transmitter into it. I got the 12v feed from the + from the electric aerial. Chose the 88.0 frequency which in my area remains unused. The socket/transmitter gets power only when I turn on the Becker receiver and the aerial goes up. If I turn it off, it all goes off. If I want to listen to the radio or a cassette, I just tune another frequency or insert the tape. The whole setup is a tight fit and hides behind the trunk carpet.

Cheers!   

Alex

Quote from: jpgcl84 on 12 June 2024, 03:50 PM280S - Becker Monza owner here, I decided against using these 6-pin adapters and went for an alternative/cheaper solution. Installed a 12v lighter socket in a round hole of the steel frame on the left side of the trunk, and plugged a FM Bluetooth transmitter into it. I got the 12v feed from the + from the electric aerial. Chose the 88.0 frequency which in my area remains unused. The socket/transmitter gets power only when I turn on the Becker receiver and the aerial goes up. If I turn it off, it all goes off. If I want to listen to the radio or a cassette, I just tune another frequency or insert the tape. The whole setup is a tight fit and hides behind the trunk carpet.

Cheers!   

I considered something similar, I might do something similar as a temporary fix.

I really need the sound quality too,

I think the current best option is to relive the ash tray, file it out a bit, and put a second (very bland) radio in there. Use that to run a powerful amp, and put new speakers in the rear, and some additional ones up front. The Becker would only be connected to the front little ones (which is all that's necessary to be honest).
77' 280SE Classic White (198,000km)