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Windshield seal nightmare

Started by Harv, 09 December 2015, 12:13 PM

Harv

Took the car to a glass shop. Been in business 60 years. Specialize in older cars, blah blah blah. Gave them a brand new OEM seal..

Annnddd this is what I got back.







They got the glass inside the seal but actually getting the trim and the seal to fit in the car gave them fits. They threw in the towel and gave me the car back. With everything torn apart. So now I'm scrambling to get find a glass shop that knows what they are doing.

Any tips?
1980 300SD
1983 240D
2000 E55 AMG
2002 G500

daantjie

Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9 - Astralsilber

polymathman

#2
I keep meaning to get the video together from where I replaced front and rear glass.
In a nutshell:
Seal is applied to glass
Trim is roped into seal UNDER lip
Windshield is roped into place
If this order is followed, the entire job won't take more than a couple of hours.

PM me an address and I'll send you the (unedited) video.
190sl 1957 rusting away
250S 1968 long gone
280SE 1976 got hit, parts
280SE 1979 running fine
C320 4Matic 2005 for wife -Mercedes after MIT

Harv

1980 300SD
1983 240D
2000 E55 AMG
2002 G500

Squiggle Dog

Been there, done that.

Here is where they went wrong:

1. They didn't put the trim in before installing the rubber (it will never go in once the seal is installed).

2. They didn't clean out the lip where the seal rests surgically clean and free of chunks and sealant.

3. They didn't use the rope method as polymathman stated. Laminated cable works great, too (it's what I use).
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1967 W110 Universal Wagon, Euro, Turbo Diesel, Tail Fins, 4 Speed Manual Column Shift, A/C
1980 W116 300SD Turbo Diesel, DB479 Walnut Brown, Sunroof, Heated Seats, 350,000+

floyd111

I know some people who know people that can visit that glas guy if you need..

Harv

Quote from: floyd111 on 09 December 2015, 10:23 PM
I know some people who know people that can visit that glas guy if you need..

Are they members of the Bamboo Union?  :P
1980 300SD
1983 240D
2000 E55 AMG
2002 G500

floyd111

How the hell would you know such things? :o

UTn_boy

And this is also why vintage MB owners end up paying for a job twice.  I do hate hearing/seeing this, and I always feel guilty about having to charge the customer to do the job again.  Especially when my rate is so much higher than the first shop. Though, It's rather baffling to me.....if they've been in business for all these years, then they should know the order of operations whether it's for a W116 or some other older domestic or import.  I always say that there is a reason the other shop down the lane charges less, and here before you is one of those reasons. :/ 
1966 250se coupe`,black/dark green leather
1970 600 midnight blue/parchment leather
1971 300sel 6.3,papyrus white/dark red leather
1975 450se, pine green metallic/green leather
1973 300sel 4.5,silver blue metallic/blue leather
1979 450sel 516 red/bamboo

polymathman

Talked with Harv today, not too far from me. Might be able to help.

A while back I installed both front and rear windshields, and as there had been much talk on this forum, I made a video. Until today, I never got around to doing much about it. But I figured I'd help Harv out and threw it together.

Here's the Dropbox link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/06x3ft5rjl54kx9/Wind.m4v?dl=0

It's really rough, but the main points come through - skip the "God Bless America" singing.
Anyway, I would appreciate suggestion on things I missed, or tricks unseen.

Ken
190sl 1957 rusting away
250S 1968 long gone
280SE 1976 got hit, parts
280SE 1979 running fine
C320 4Matic 2005 for wife -Mercedes after MIT

Casey

#10
LOL!

This really isn't even a hard job. I can do it myself easily enough with nothing but a hard plastic spatula. Sorry for your misfortune... I hope they paid you for that nonsense!

Every time I have gotten a windshield from a junk yard, and bring it up to the counter to pay for it with the seal still on it to protect the edges, they ask me how I got it out without breaking it, I guess most people cut the seal?

I did break a perfect windshield once, being too hasty. Won't do that again!


P.S. Love the ivory - is that a 300SD? I have one (my first W116) but sadly it got hit by a semi. :/ It's windshield is broken from when my seatbeltless roomate's head hit the glass (fortunately no injury to him).

Harv

Quote from: polymathman on 10 December 2015, 02:00 AM
Talked with Harv today, not too far from me. Might be able to help.

A while back I installed both front and rear windshields, and as there had been much talk on this forum, I made a video. Until today, I never got around to doing much about it. But I figured I'd help Harv out and threw it together.

Here's the Dropbox link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/06x3ft5rjl54kx9/Wind.m4v?dl=0

It's really rough, but the main points come through - skip the "God Bless America" singing.
Anyway, I would appreciate suggestion on things I missed, or tricks unseen.

Ken

Amazing. I put it on a USB and I'm taking it up to the glass place.
1980 300SD
1983 240D
2000 E55 AMG
2002 G500

ptashek

Copied and sent to my restorer, just in case. Thanks! :)
1993 "Pearl Blue" W124 280TE
1988 "Arctic White" W124 200T
1979 "Icon Gold" W116 450SE

daantjie

What a great video! This should be a sticky for sure!
Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9 - Astralsilber

polymathman

Evidently DropBox only lets you see the first of it. You have to sign up to download the whole thing. DropBox isn't bad though, and the sign up is free.
190sl 1957 rusting away
250S 1968 long gone
280SE 1976 got hit, parts
280SE 1979 running fine
C320 4Matic 2005 for wife -Mercedes after MIT