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Title: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 18 March 2016, 07:22 PM
For those who missed the interlude:
-Get the exact size in MM, color, sticker-material used, part number, location, chassis/engine application of each sticker on the W116
-reproduce all that are NLA,  in high quality, waterproof.

I selected a great deal of stickers/samples already
Rumb created a file online that can be worked by everyone, who may have data to add:
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=FDED54DD16F83D04!4684&authkey=!ABwJyqd8viviuZ4&ithint=file%2cxlsx

Rumb, is it possible to paste photos in that file?
It would be more user friendly that way, rather than post url-links

I would also suggest we go about this systematically, one by one.
I have selected 18 stickers that have a proven part number, but need all other additional data still
I have 40 stickers that have no data yet

I will each time post 2 stickers, and ask for you guys to add
part number                                :
the exact size in MM                     :
color(s)                                       :
sticker-material used                    :
location (photo please!)                :
chassis/engine number applicable  :
NLA/available                               :

At the same time Rumb may work the data in his Excel
Each time we have a full form of an NLA item, I will give the go ahead to do a reproduction.

Shall we start?
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 18 March 2016, 07:38 PM
part number                                :0005841840
the exact size in MM                     :
color(s)                                       :
sticker-material used                    :
location (photo please!)                :
chassis/engine number applicable  :
NLA/available                               : Available

part number                                :0005845039
the exact size in MM                     :
color(s)                                       :
sticker-material used                    :
location (photo please!)                :
chassis/engine number applicable  :
NLA/available                               :Available
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ptashek on 19 March 2016, 03:48 AM
part number                                :0005845039
the exact size in MM                     :156.5 x 25 x 0.15 (0.23 as packaged)
color(s)                                       :
sticker-material used                    : aluminium, with 3M 467MP adhesive backing (http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Electronics_NA/Electronics/Products/Electronics_Product_Catalog/~/3M-High-Performance-Adhesive-Transfer-Tape-467MP?N=8704962+3294001694&rt=rud)
location (photo please!)                :plastic covering of trunk loading edge, bottom-right corner, dedicated groove
chassis/engine number applicable  :
NLA/available                               :Available
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ptashek on 19 March 2016, 03:54 AM
part number                                :0005841840
the exact size in MM                     : 60 x 45 x 0.15, rounded corners ~2mm dia
color(s)                                       : white background, red text and border
sticker-material used                    : Oracal print vinyl, Permanent S
location (photo please!)                : top of fan shroud, engine bay
chassis/engine number applicable  :
NLA/available                               : Available
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 19 March 2016, 04:48 AM
part number                                :1088350088
the exact size in MM                     :
color(s)                                       :
sticker-material used                    :
location (photo please!)                :
chassis/engine number applicable  :
NLA/available                               : NLA

part number                                :1105844021
the exact size in MM                     :
color(s)                                       :
sticker-material used                    :
location (photo please!)                :
chassis/engine number applicable  :
NLA/available                               :Available
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 19 March 2016, 06:18 AM
Use this link it has the pictures

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=FDED54DD16F83D04!4691&authkey=!AEl1BA6Qsv1LK4g&ithint=file%2cxls

yellow highlighted are ones I think we need, because 1. they are not available somewhere else either MB or other suppliers, and 2. have a usage on W116 chassis.

If you have information on where on the car any other labels goes, let me know and I will verify and add to the list.

I looked at all the images stan has posted so far and weeded out  many of them as not being on W116.

I will update the table from comments here.

Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 19 March 2016, 06:21 AM
the 4 listed above are either available elsewhere or do not go on W116.

2,4 avail elsewhere
1,3 not W116 - W113, w108
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 19 March 2016, 06:29 AM
Quote from: rumb on 19 March 2016, 06:21 AM
the 4 listed above are either available elsewhere or do not go on W116.

2,4 avail elsewhere
3 not W116 - w108


to the list of info needed can you please add
Description and
if available, list where.

Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 19 March 2016, 06:33 AM
Sorry, everytime I update it will require a new link.

Here is current

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=FDED54DD16F83D04!4693&authkey=!AMR6lZdFqUsJmEc&ithint=file%2cxls
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 19 March 2016, 08:03 PM
You say 1088350088 does not belong. What is the other one you speak of?
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: UTn_boy on 19 March 2016, 10:30 PM
RUMB, the 108-835-00-88 was, in fact, used on the W116, but only on the early models.  Unfortunately, there is no information as to when they stopped using this particular decal.  However, I have noticed over the years that D-Jet powered W116 cars all have the 108-835-00-88, but most of the K-Jet and later have the later sticker that mounts on the core support at the top of the radiator next to the hood latch assembly.  I'm not certain of the part number for the later sticker.  The early sticker was affixed to the A/C compressor manifold behind the power steering pump. 

If the W116 is an early M-110 powered model, they used the 108-835-00-88 as well, and was affixed to the service valve on the low side of the York Compressor.  I've also seen the same label affixed tot he top of the compressor, as well.  Again, there is no consistency as to when/why about the different location of the label. 

Below are some pictures of more decals and color legends that may or may not help.  I have not checked the availability of them. 

Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 20 March 2016, 06:14 AM
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=FDED54DD16F83D04!4695&authkey=!ADl8G3r3z0It_Ak&ithint=file%2cxls
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 20 March 2016, 07:46 AM
108 835 0088 (together with 123 835 0088) was used at least until 1977 - below a picture of a 1977-car.
Also on a W107 from 1978 - and on W108-cars.

On the w116 they were used not later than 12/1978: then (or earlier) both were replaced by 123 835 0188.

I have reproduced both stickers for the early cars, if interested just pm me. The late sticker (123 835 0188) will
be available in short time.

The V8-cars with K-Jet (M116 and M117) do have the stickers 115 584 3621 (2x) and 117 584 3221 on the valve covers.
I can deliver a reproduction of 117 584 3221 and in near future also a reproduction of 115 584 3621 (2 needed per car).

Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 20 March 2016, 07:47 AM
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Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 20 March 2016, 07:49 AM
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Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ptashek on 20 March 2016, 10:19 AM
Quote from: tcj on 20 March 2016, 07:46 AM117 584 3221 on the valve covers

According to my dealer sources, 3221 was replaced by 2121 some years ago, and was originally used on early model W126 V8s.
The 3221 however is the one that all W116 V8s (at least euro spec) would have had from factory.

That's the only one you can get at the dealer:
(http://www.dropbox.com/s/a4znrgj8zh1kvek/A1175842121.jpg?dl=1)
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 20 March 2016, 12:14 PM
Quote from: ptashek on 20 March 2016, 10:19 AM

The 2121 however is the one that all W116 V8s (at least euro spec) would have had from factory.


Hi Ptashek,
typo? 3221 should be the sticker that the W116-V8s had from factory.

Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ptashek on 20 March 2016, 02:03 PM
Typo indeed. I've updated my post.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 20 March 2016, 02:39 PM
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=FDED54DD16F83D04!4699&authkey=!AE9cHD3HlaA-ePQ&ithint=file%2cxls
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 21 March 2016, 12:19 PM
Update on my reproductions:
The stickers A123 835 00 88, A108 835 00 88 and A117 584 32 21 are already available from me (see above).

As announced the valve-sticker A115 584 36 21 will be available (approx) April, 1st.

I can also offer the correct sticker for the brake booster.
It is not very easy to reproduce them as the sticker includes the date the booster was made
and other variable dates.
Examples:
3.6157-0310.4 (with datecode 76-5) is the sticker of my W116 350SE (the car was delivered in june 1976),
the second sticker (with datecode 78-7) is from my 6.9 (the car was delivered dec.1978).
What I can offer: if you send me a photo (or the text) of your sticker until march, 28th I will reproduce
a sticker exactly as you want it.
If your sticker doesn't exist anymore then select from my 2 photos and choose a date 1-2 months before
your car was built (hint: my 350SE is without ABS, the 6.9 is with ABS).
Second thing to choose from:
Looking at the photos you will see that the original text is not printed horizontally but at an angle!
So let me know if you want to have the sticker with a light angle, or horizontally.

And I can offer the late sticker for the air conditioning (A123 835 01 88) soon.

Both (Brake-booster-sticker and AC-Sticker) will be available in 3-4weeks time from now.

If you are interested - just send me a PM.

Thomas

Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 21 March 2016, 12:24 PM
Update 2:
I will also have the M100-Sticker available in 4 weeks time.
It sits on the brake booster (in my 6.9).

Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 21 March 2016, 06:33 PM
Wow.. even more stickers.. This is becoming a Master Quest indeed.
Thomas, I'll have 2 of each stickers of each one you decide to manufacture for Euro-280.
Just let me know.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 22 March 2016, 01:09 AM
Hello Stan,

ok - just choose from the stickers I offer ;-)

@all
Is there a need that I reproduce this brake fluid sticker as well (sits on top of the brake booster)?
A few question arise:
- which years to print on it?
  From 1980? From 2016? Also from 2020 for future use?
- This one on the photo is incomplete (lower right corner with the part number is missing) and distorted.
  Anyone has a good photo that is taken vertically from above?
- excact size?

Thanks,
Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ptashek on 22 March 2016, 04:47 AM
Quote from: tcj on 22 March 2016, 01:09 AM
Is there a need that I reproduce this brake fluid sticker as well (sits on top of the brake booster)?

My opinion might be controversial, but I would actually not reproduce any service related stickers.
Why help the dishonest people out there in the big bad world faking an "OEM" service record?
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 22 March 2016, 04:54 AM
Quote from: ptashek on 22 March 2016, 04:47 AM
Quote from: tcj on 22 March 2016, 01:09 AM
Is there a need that I reproduce this brake fluid sticker as well (sits on top of the brake booster)?

My opinion might be controversial, but I would actually not reproduce any service related stickers.
Why help the dishonest people out there in the big bad world faking an "OEM" service record?

... a service sticker starting with "2016" should be easyly recognized as a later reproduction.
I think most buyers would not rely on such a sticker in conjunction with a missing "wartungsheft" (so no name of the guy who did the service
is available). No prob in my eyes.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 22 March 2016, 06:10 AM
I was hoping for a vintage service label with date range of 1977-1980,  as opposed to a current world one.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 22 March 2016, 07:19 AM
I would vote for an identical reproduction, not a "2016" version. If not, what is left of this quest? May as well stick a "Nike" sticker where the brake booster sticker was.
I don't want to be forced out of the "authentic" area into the repro-area, just because some scammers are trying to fake a car history.
Buying an oldie takes skill. The more money you have, the less skilled you need to be.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 22 March 2016, 03:04 PM
renew brake fluid
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 23 March 2016, 12:34 AM
wow..another new one!
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: Peter on 23 March 2016, 06:12 PM
This one is the same as the one I posted a photo of however the dates update every 4 years I believe. On the subject of new decals I don't see the Bosch Coil decal anywhere here, should we add that in - I think there are two on each coil.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 23 March 2016, 06:15 PM
Sure.. add them, if you can get a photo..
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 23 March 2016, 06:18 PM
Can we fill in this form data, so we may proceed with nr 5+6?

part number                                :1088350088
the exact size in MM                     :
color(s)                                       :
sticker-material used                    :
location (photo please!)                :
chassis/engine number applicable  :
NLA/available                               : NLA

part number                                :1105844021
the exact size in MM                     :
color(s)                                       :
sticker-material used                    :
location (photo please!)                :
chassis/engine number applicable  :
NLA/available                               :Available
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 28 March 2016, 08:53 AM
Does anyone have these last 2 stickers in their cars?
Could we please have the sizes of these? :)
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 28 March 2016, 11:21 AM
Hi Stan,

you have bought 1088350088 from me, the letter should arrive sometime. Just wait ;-)

regards,
Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 28 March 2016, 12:34 PM
Coil stickers, though I dont think mine look like that, the bottom one is missing entirely and the top one has a graphic of an explosion and perhaps the word Transis**

If you google, most of them have the Bosch 12V sticker on them.

both are  50x25mm

Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: Peter on 28 March 2016, 02:01 PM
The coil stickers are correct except the bottom sticker should say "made in Germany", they are hard to source and I found them in Poland as they suit the early Porsche 911.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: Peter on 28 March 2016, 02:31 PM
Its just the Yellow and Red Bosch sticker we need, I'll have a look today and post a photo of the correct top sticker for the coil.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ptashek on 28 March 2016, 04:50 PM
You can see a part of the Bosch coil in the pic below. Bottom-right corner.
This is how it comes from MB these days.There's two other stickers on it.

Click pic for full-res.
(http://www.dropbox.com/s/kzszdvxhy693fb5/ZV9485_00796.jpg?dl=1)
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: Peter on 28 March 2016, 05:13 PM
Yes the new coils have three stickers and the Bosch sticker has dropped the "made in Germany" as they are now made elsewhere.
I will now spend the next 15 minutes admiring the photo of your engine bay Mr Ptashek, fresh nickel plating and Icon Gold in the engine bay makes it look like gods own jewellery box.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 28 March 2016, 07:36 PM
He's doing this to spite me, I am sure.. >:(
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ptashek on 29 March 2016, 09:22 AM
Quote from: floyd111 on 28 March 2016, 08:53 AM
Could we please have the sizes of these? :)

I've got an old, dried out and curled, A1175843921 so dimensions may not be super accurate: 76mm x 73mm (WxH)
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ptashek on 29 March 2016, 09:24 AM
Quote from: floyd111 on 28 March 2016, 07:36 PM
He's doing this to spite me, I am sure.. >:(

Nope :)
Pinky swear!

We all know you're aiming for a much higher standard.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 29 March 2016, 03:07 PM
What is the tag tied in the wires coming out of the fuse box?  My car only had the wire left there.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: UTn_boy on 30 March 2016, 04:22 AM
I have a concern about some of the decals.  On most of the W116 cars, the decals that were affixed to the radiator were originally not what is available now. They looked like maybe they were an opaque plastic stencil that was gummed on the back side.  (there is a name for what I am trying to describe, I just don't know what it is called)  Is trying to reproduce that particular type of decal useless or too expensive, or not desirable? 
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 30 March 2016, 06:36 AM
Personally, I would want the same size, same color, same model as the original.
Besides that, I would not vote for genuine reproductions whenever plain paper is involved.
Better to have those remade in waterproof plastic, so they don't fade and deteriorate like their ancestors.
No doubt that some hard-core purists have different ideas about that, but that's just my personal take on this.
I would not, however, want to see aluminum stickers replaced by plastic. That's would not be an improvement
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 30 March 2016, 08:31 AM
I agree the radiator decals were just that - decals.  They are much more fragile. That is based on what I remember from my W108, though they are long gone from there.

It looks like making decals would be very easy.  I would just keep 4-5 of them and replace every few years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0uvpCaRbbU

Have we determined what if any radiator decals should be on a 6.9?  If there are some, I would be willing to print some myself.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 30 March 2016, 01:44 PM
Update:

the first stickers are ready.
First Pic: This is how the brake booster of my 350SE looked in 2010 before it was repainted:
Other Pics: This is how it looks now.

Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 30 March 2016, 01:53 PM
Another Update:

the valve cover sticker 115 584 36 21 of (at least) 350SE, 450SE and 6.9 (and other MB-Cars) is ready as well.
Try to guess which one is the NOS-Sticker and which one is my reproduction.

Other stickers will follow.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ptashek on 30 March 2016, 05:28 PM
Quote from: tcj on 30 March 2016, 01:53 PM
Try to guess which one is the NOS-Sticker and which one is my reproduction.

Right one is NOS. It has slightly more resolution in the detail ;)
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 31 March 2016, 12:46 AM
Hi Lucas,
right! Nevertheless the light fuzziness in the picture only exists on the photo.
In reality it is hard to tell the difference.

Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 01 April 2016, 11:35 AM
How about the sticker on the 6.9 hydro tank?
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 01 April 2016, 04:05 PM
Hi Rumb,

yes - this is a sticker that I would like to reproduce because it is missing on my 6.9.
I will need a good picture and the exact size, then I can create it.
Can you tell me these details?

Is this your car? If so - could you also make a photo of the red sticker on the brake booster (and tell me the exact size
and if it is a paper - or plastic-sticker)?

Thanks,
Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 01 April 2016, 04:50 PM
sorry not my car.  I am missing all
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: Peter on 02 April 2016, 01:44 PM
Hi Thomas, everyone will need the Tempomat sticker as it was originally paper and I think it has faded away on everyones car, should we start with that one and do you have the size?
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 02 April 2016, 02:17 PM
Hi,

the cruise control sticker reads in three languages "attention sensible to shocks"
Therefore I personally think that this sticker was not used in the factory assembly line (because once
this control unit was installed into the car there is no need for this sticker anymore).

Not so for control units that are sold later as spare parts.

But of course - I may be wrong  ;)

I think I have a NOS Control unit with sticker here, I will check it tomorrow and let you know.

to all that are interested in this sticker: please let me know, if there are at least 4 of you that are
interested I will reproduce the sticker - the list is getting longer... ;-)

Thomas

(http://oi63.tinypic.com/28btyrr.jpg)
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 02 April 2016, 02:22 PM
Here a factory picture of a 350SE from the sales brochure.
No sticker on the cruise control control unit.
But that is no proof as these pictures are often pictures
of pre-production cars.

Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 02 April 2016, 02:59 PM
I agree with you the the cars did not have the tempomat sticker.  It seems to me to be a warning for before the replacement part is installed.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 03 April 2016, 03:13 AM
ok - got the sticker.
So anyway - if someone wants this sticker please let me know.
Peter?

Thanks,
Thomas
Title: Brake booster Sticker
Post by: tcj on 03 April 2016, 04:41 AM
Hi,

by the way: take a look at the two pictures rumb posted above:
Even here you can see the brake booster sticker I reproduced a few days ago. So this
is another proof that this is the original sticker.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: revilla on 03 April 2016, 09:12 AM
Hi Thomas,

My CC actuator still has the orange sticker (although not in great shape).  Looks identical to the pic you posted. So yes, 2 please.  Actuator has been repainted so the sticker will bring back that 1977 dealer look  ;)

Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 03 April 2016, 09:49 AM
Hi revilla,

thanks - is noted down. Which material? Paper like original or plastic so it is more durable?

Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: revilla on 03 April 2016, 09:56 AM
paper please, as the originals.  thx

Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: Peter on 03 April 2016, 03:01 PM
Hi Thomas, yes I will take the sticker anytime you have it ready. Thanks   ;D
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 03 April 2016, 10:32 PM
Hi Peter,

also noted - how many and how (paper/pastics)?

Thanks,
Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: gavin116 on 04 April 2016, 12:17 AM
Hi Thomas
I would like two cruise control actuator stickers in plastic (or the aluminiumised type) if they are available.  My car originally had a paper sticker that disintegrated when I was washing the engine bay.  I personally would go the plastic sticker route, because even new paper ones will once again fall apart if you need to do any cleaning under the hood.
Many thanks,
Gavin
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 04 April 2016, 12:42 PM
Hi gavin,

thanks - will also make them in pastic or alu.
As you can see on my pics my sticker is folded so it is difficult to measure the exact size.

Is your disintegrated sticker still flat? If so could you put a measuring tape on it and tell me the exact width?
Should be something like 13cm.

Thanks,
Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 04 April 2016, 12:58 PM
fuel flap:
Original was 116 584 02 39 for all cars (exept 6.9), later replaced by 116 584 21 39.
The 6.9 has 116 584 10 39.

I am able to reproduce them all, just tell me if you are interested.

Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: revilla on 04 April 2016, 01:29 PM
Hi Thomas,

Interested in 2 fuel lid sticker.  Mine is dark green / white font (your first pic).  They're alu type if I'm not mistaken.

Thx

Regards

Robert

 
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: gavin116 on 04 April 2016, 01:38 PM
Hi Thomas


Sadly my cruise control actuator sticker is no longer...  But I'd really like the aluminiumised type.


I also dug out my old slam panel, and I need two more stickers.  The one for the lights? They applied heat to this sticker to see if they could get it off, but it wouldn't budge.  Its original height would have been 45 mm.  See the original.  It is one of those aluminiumised types.


I would also like the seat belt sticker, again in an aluminiumised format if possible.


Kind regards,
Gavin



Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: Peter on 04 April 2016, 02:24 PM
Hi Thomas, lets go with the plastic or better for the Tempomat sticker as everyone here seems to agree that if you reproduce in paper it will fail again over time.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 04 April 2016, 02:54 PM
put me down for one of the tire pressure 116 584 10 39



Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ptashek on 04 April 2016, 03:49 PM
Quote from: gavin116 on 04 April 2016, 01:38 PM
I would also like the seat belt sticker, again in an aluminiumised format if possible.

I'm game for this one too.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 04 April 2016, 10:57 PM
all noted.
As the seat belt sticker doesn't exist in germany: could you please identify the exact text in the third line?

Is it either...
BS. AU 48 1965
BS. AU 48a 1965
BS. AU 48: 1965
BS. AU 48a: 1965

Thanks,
Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: gavin116 on 04 April 2016, 11:16 PM
Quote from: gavin116 on 04 April 2016, 01:38 PM
I also dug out my old slam panel, and I need two more stickers.  The one for the lights? They applied heat to this sticker to see if they could get it off, but it wouldn't budge.  Its original height would have been 45 mm.


I see now that the "E" numbers are to do with European harmonisation (and not specifically only headlamps):https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Forum_for_Harmonization_of_Vehicle_Regulations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Forum_for_Harmonization_of_Vehicle_Regulations)
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: gavin116 on 04 April 2016, 11:19 PM
Quote from: tcj on 04 April 2016, 10:57 PM
all noted.
As the seat belt sticker doesn't exist in europe: could you please identify the exact text in the third line?

Is it either...
BS. AU 48 1965
BS. AU 48a 1965
BS. AU 48: 1965
BS. AU 48a: 1965

Thanks,
Thomas


Hi Thomas
I think the sticker must be one of the two emboldened texts, but we will need someone else from the UK or with a UK vehicle to confirm.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ptashek on 05 April 2016, 01:38 AM
Quote from: tcj on 04 April 2016, 10:57 PM
all noted.
As the seat belt sticker doesn't exist in germany: could you please identify the exact text in the third line?

I'm quite certain the sticker reads "BS AU 48 : 1965" and was the same on all UK (maybe AU too?) delivered cars.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 08 May 2016, 09:56 PM
Hi guys,

Where are we with this project? Thomas.. are you going to do the whole collection, or will you split the job between you and Rumb?
Or, should i step in and get them all produced myself?

What stickers are now available as reproductions?

Stan
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 08 May 2016, 10:14 PM
Hi Stan,

some stickers are ready to order (see below), but the printer is ill now so I have to wait for the rest.
Soon to come (don't know when the printer is back to work)
- fuel flap (3 versions)
- HPF-tank
- red service sticker
- cruise control

Thanks,
Thomas



Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 09 May 2016, 08:35 AM
Good, no hurry.
But.. "printer"? Are these paper prints? Not plastics?
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 09 May 2016, 08:45 AM
maybe I used the wrong term (I don't speak native english) - I wanted to say that the
guy who owns the local printer shop is ill.
And no - these are no paper prints. It is made of durable plastics.

Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 05 July 2016, 06:51 AM
updating the sticker thread:
The cruise control decal is ready, I made to versions:
- paper - very close to the original decal
- laminated: still close to the original decal, but more durable when exposed to the weather.

Other stickers that are available at the moment (more to come):
- the two small red AC-stickers: 123 835 00 88 and 108 835 00 88 for early W116 until ~1977
- the bigger red AC-Sticker: 123 835 01 88 for W116 from ~1977.
  Just take a look in your engine compartment. If you find the later replacement 124 835 01 88
  that mercedes sells for some years now you may want to change to the correct sticker.
  You will see that the 124-Sticker doesn't mention the W116 but newer cars as the W124 and W201
- The valve cover of the M116, M117 and M100-engines need two of the 115 584 36 21-Stickers.
- The valve cover of the M116, M117-engines (K-Jet) needs the 117 584 3221-Sticker
- The valve cover of the M100-engines needs the 100 584 0738-Sticker
- Your Brake Booster needs one blue ATE-Sticker. At the moment available with date codes 5/76 and 7/78.

Just to compare the cruise control sticker I added a picture of a NOS CC-Unit.

If you need a sticker - just PM me.

Kind regards,
Thomas

Original Sticker on a NOS CC-Unit:

(http://i63.tinypic.com/35avspw.jpg)
(http://i67.tinypic.com/33jld1w.jpg)

available stickers:
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 05 July 2016, 06:57 AM
Who is interested in these two stickers:

If there is some need for them I will work on them.

Just let me know.

regards,
Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ptashek on 05 July 2016, 09:09 AM
Quote from: tcj on 05 July 2016, 06:57 AM
Who is interested in these two stickers:

If there is some need for them I will work on them.
Just let me know.


I am very much interested in those two.
Below is a better image of the seatbelt anchorage sticker, taken from Type17s 350. I think Marku here had some details on the other sticker.

Here's also another incarnation of the ATE brake booster sticker.
As for sizes, I had no way to measure it on the day, so can't say exactly but will do my best to find out. It's roughly 15x50mm, white print on black vinyl base.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: marku on 05 July 2016, 09:25 AM
Did I? I don't remember but my 450 has both, the first is an embossed metal plate fixed by two screws and the second brake booster sticker is much smaller - a single line.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 05 July 2016, 09:14 PM
Nice to see this thing is still alive. ;D
I will take 2 of whatever you have in stickers for the Euro M110.
I will wait till you have finished your quest and buy them all-in one-go
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: gavin116 on 05 July 2016, 11:27 PM
Count me in for one of each of these.  And thank you Lucas for finding a pristine seatbelt anchorage sticker (I've given the dimensions, and now you have been able to supply the full wording as the ":" was missing on my sticker where it had bubbled).


Quote from: tcj on 05 July 2016, 06:57 AM
Who is interested in these two stickers:

If there is some need for them I will work on them.

Just let me know.

regards,
Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 06 July 2016, 06:25 AM
I'll take one of each that are for a 6.9, plus another radiator and brake master for a W108.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 06 July 2016, 11:25 PM
@ Floyd111 and rumb:

thanks - but does this include your interest in the seatbelt- and the "E"-Stickers?

Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 06 July 2016, 11:35 PM
My cars are Euro, so no Anchorage sticker for me. Is the other E sticker for Euro-cars?
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 07 July 2016, 06:14 AM
yes on the E sticker
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ptashek on 17 October 2016, 01:25 PM
Here's yet another incarnation of the ATE brake booster sticker, this one's from my 450 prior to restoration. There was no way to rescue it :(
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 18 October 2016, 06:46 AM
It would sure be great to receive an update on this matter.. What stickers have been reproduced by now?
Could we have a list and prices?
Is this still ongoing, or should I proceed and have all 50 of them done myself?
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 18 October 2016, 07:55 AM
yes - its still ongoing. Will show an update when I am satisfied with all new stickers.
The tempomat-sticker is taking time at the moment->its a difficult one because of the neon colors.
It looks perfect - but sticks poorly to the tempomat unit. So another approach is needed.
HPF-Sticker on the HPF-Tank has to be tested when being covered by hydraulik oil...
That all takes time. Just be patient.

Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 18 October 2016, 12:53 PM
I had sent some 35 different ones to the sticker factory 6 months ago. Aluminum, plastic, all sorts of them.
They were quite able to do them all-at-once.
How come your people have problems producing some of them?
Maybe give the tough cases to me?
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 19 October 2016, 12:19 AM
by the way: the breake fluid stickers are ready:

There was a design change in 1981.
The left column shows the stickers mercedes used from 1981,
the right column shows the stickers mercedes used before this date.

Available are the following stickers:
Design upto 1981:
- Years 1965-1968
- Years 1967-1970
- Years 1976-1979
- Years 1978-1981
- Years 2016-2019

Design from 1981:
- Years 1981-1984
- Years 2016-2019

Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: tcj on 19 October 2016, 12:35 AM
QuoteMaybe give the tough cases to me?

Hi Stan,

do as you like. I am primarily doing these stickers for my cars, and my cars are able to drive without stickers  ;) so I don't want to
put pressure on me or the other persons that are involved.

Stan - the demand for stickers is rather low, don't expect much.
- I offered the two red AC-Stickers years ago (also on this website) after I made them for my W116
  and I sold this number of stickers: "0"
- Through this thread I sold this number of stickers upto now: "5". Thanks to Peter and you.
- If I counted right there is further interest in approx. 20 Stickers.
That for 16 different stickers I intend to make.

So you may understand now that I dont want to hurry, I am just making stickers for my cars. And when
they are ready I am glad to offer them in this forum.
Are your cars ready so you are in urgend need for stickers?

Stan: make every sticker you want. Just coordinate this with me so we don't work on the same stickers.

Thomas

Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ptashek on 19 October 2016, 03:16 AM
Quote from: tcj on 19 October 2016, 12:35 AM
- If I counted right there is further interest in approx. 20 Stickers.
That for 16 different stickers I intend to make.

I'm patiently waiting for the entire set, except AC stickers, to be ready, and don't mind the wait :)
So, no pressure from my side! Thanks for doing this.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 19 October 2016, 05:09 AM
TJC Likewise, I have expressed desire, but am waiting until all are done and ready to ship.

PS, the new brake fluid stickers look great!
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: Peter on 19 October 2016, 01:45 PM
Those brake fluid stickers look spot on  :D Top job Thomas
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 20 October 2016, 07:12 PM
Like the others, I am not in a hurry, and personally, I have no interest in selling any for profits.
I just want 2 or 3 sets for my 280"s, somewhere in 2017.
So, Thomas, what you feel from my side is not pressure, but an offer to relieve pressure, in case you don't have the time, lost interest, or are faced with complications.
We're talking 50 to 75 different stickers here that need exact reproduction. Not a small task if you have a life.
The cost is another factor. Even though each sticker will cost only 30-50 euros to reproduce (in 500pcs min.) The fact that we have 75 pcs to do really hurts the wallet.
So, again, can I help? And if so, which stickers do you want me to do? Or leave it with you? Also good.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 20 April 2018, 07:19 AM
I found a few labels on this site,

particularily #9 and #10 radiator labels. 

http://www.mbzponton.org/valueadded/other/decals.htm

I'm pretty sure these are used on W108, can someone confirm their use on W116, I think they were also used there.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: rumb on 20 April 2018, 02:11 PM
answering my own question.  here is a picture of the labels on a 6.9
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: daantjie on 20 April 2018, 02:50 PM
Quote from: rumb on 20 April 2018, 02:11 PM
answering my own question.  here is a picture of the labels on a 6.9

Robert is there not also supposed to be a black sticker to the right of the "data card" plaque, denoting the rpm settings and mixture and such for the pollution control crap?  Or maybe that is US only ???  Also the plaque to the left of the hood catch normally is on the driver B Pillar, no?

Oops sorry I guess you were only referring to the labels on the fan shroud?
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 20 April 2018, 03:38 PM
This thread sure could do with a revival, a re-cap and a reality check, to find out what work has been done, and what is to follow still, in order to get this W116 sticker collection complete and available to the public..
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: Randys01 on 22 April 2018, 12:59 AM
I'm interested in who ever has what available.   If one has to buy from 2 or 3 enthusiasts to make up a fairly complete set, that's fine too.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: raueda1 on 28 April 2018, 07:46 AM
Quote from: floyd111 on 20 April 2018, 03:38 PM
This thread sure could do with a revival, a re-cap and a reality check, to find out what work has been done, and what is to follow still, in order to get this W116 sticker collection complete and available to the public..
Agreed.  I too am interested.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: Braminator123 on 04 March 2021, 03:59 AM
Hello everyone,

Such a vast amount of effort and time has been dedicated to enlightening us all globally on W116 stickers and all the permutations.

THANK YOU.

I wondered whether anyone was still planning to reproduce some of these stickers to keep the W116 models looking as good as they do?

I do understand that this is a personal project for some of our fellow members.

Happy motoring! 

Warm regards.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 04 March 2021, 05:14 PM
I heard you. I'm one of those that most need to complete my sticker set, if I am ever to present a 0-mile W116.
I started the thread way back for just that purpose, quickly finding out that finding samples of the originals is but a first step. To reproduce them properly , some are paper, some metallic, some plastic or plastified. Then, there are unique stickers to certain W116 classes, creating quite a range of stickers to be produced, and not cheap. I am probably best situated when it comes to having these reproduced.. Taiwan, home of the plastics, and all!
Service is proper, quick and affordable, but just like abroad there is a 100-1000 sticker minimum. Great if you need 1000 of each. Not great of you need less than 50 of each, in 100 types/formats.

I think along the way there have been members who indicated they would want a full sticker set, but is it a big enough group? And what would be their budget for a full class-specific sticker set? Should we have a poll?
I wouldn't mind the work of collecting and reproducing stickers for my own- and other classes, or prepaying for the lot. -or shipping them. I wouldn't mind losing some money on it either, since it solves an important problem I need to solve.
But, normally, my 1978 280S/SE -specific stickers are the ones  that I would  have reproduced.
With some confirmation that there will be enough takers, it would not be a big next step to expand to V8 class sticker sets.
Basically, we would need to revisit this topic from scratch, do a stocktake of what the interest is, and what is reuired to get to a succesfull end,
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: floyd111 on 04 March 2021, 10:24 PM
@Braminator On my side, I have a big bag with most of the w116 stickers, but they are some knockoff, which I was prepared for, but yet had to see myself.
i also have a couple of originals, but not many, and in all I have nothing for sale.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: marku on 05 March 2021, 09:15 AM
If you are going to accept reproductions why not print your own? Plenty of adhesive plastic sheet for inkjet, laser etc. All you need is a set of good examples.
Title: Re: W116 sticker quest
Post by: ekipe on 19 October 2021, 03:41 AM
Quote from: floyd111 on 04 March 2021, 05:14 PM
I heard you. I'm one of those that most need to complete my sticker set, if I am ever to present a 0-mile W116.
I started the thread way back for just that purpose, quickly finding out that finding samples of the originals is but a first step. To reproduce them properly , some are paper, some metallic, some plastic or plastified. Then, there are unique stickers to certain W116 classes, creating quite a range of stickers to be produced, and not cheap. I am probably best situated when it comes to having these reproduced.. Taiwan, home of the plastics, and all!
Service is proper, quick and affordable, but just like abroad there is a 100-1000 sticker minimum. Great if you need 1000 of each. Not great of you need less than 50 of each, in 100 types/formats.

I think along the way there have been members who indicated they would want a full sticker set, but is it a big enough group? And what would be their budget for a full class-specific sticker set? Should we have a poll?
I wouldn't mind the work of collecting and reproducing stickers for my own- and other classes, or prepaying for the lot. -or shipping them. I wouldn't mind losing some money on it either, since it solves an important problem I need to solve.
But, normally, my 1978 280S/SE -specific stickers are the ones  that I would  have reproduced.
With some confirmation that there will be enough takers, it would not be a big next step to expand to V8 class sticker sets.
Basically, we would need to revisit this topic from scratch, do a stocktake of what the interest is, and what is reuired to get to a succesfull end,

Sorry for resurrecting this thread. But I am certainly interested in a full set for my 75 450SEL