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hamidagha

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Tyre size for 1979 280SE
« on: 20 October 2020, 01:23 PM »
I took Albert (yes my car is called Albert) to show him off to a couple of friends. One remarked that the tyres should be bigger to suit the car better.
Question is this: I believe I have the original rims on the car. But what is the best tyre size?

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Re: Tyre size for 1979 280SE
« Reply #1 on: 20 October 2020, 02:09 PM »
Your car should be fitted with 195/70R14.

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Re: Tyre size for 1979 280SE
« Reply #2 on: 20 October 2020, 02:21 PM »
Your car should be fitted with 195/70R14.

Thanks Rumb.
I have 185/R14/90H and the technical notes on this site suggest a 185 HR 14. So i guess the 195 would make them 10mm wider, but with lower profile?
« Last Edit: 20 October 2020, 02:46 PM by hamidagha »

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Re: Tyre size for 1979 280SE
« Reply #3 on: 20 October 2020, 04:22 PM »
6 cylinder w116 should have 185/70R14.
1971 R107 350 SL (Dad's)
1975 W116 280 S (Dad's)
1975 W116 450 SEL 6.9 #140 (Dad's)
1977 W123 230 (Mine)
1992 W124 230 CE (Mine)

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Re: Tyre size for 1979 280SE
« Reply #4 on: 20 October 2020, 05:02 PM »
hmmmm,  I looked here for the answer. Apparently MB calls for something different?

https://tiresize.com/tires/Mercedes-Benz/280E/1979/Base-Model/

the 195 is a little taller and wider


https://tiresize.com/height-calculator/
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Re: Tyre size for 1979 280SE
« Reply #5 on: 20 October 2020, 08:03 PM »
That's for the W123 280E. It indeed uses a 195 tire. But the w116 280 S/E/L uses a 185 tire. Not sure why.
1971 R107 350 SL (Dad's)
1975 W116 280 S (Dad's)
1975 W116 450 SEL 6.9 #140 (Dad's)
1977 W123 230 (Mine)
1992 W124 230 CE (Mine)

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Re: Tyre size for 1979 280SE
« Reply #6 on: 21 October 2020, 05:04 AM »
my bad   :o
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Re: Tyre size for 1979 280SE
« Reply #7 on: 18 November 2021, 09:52 AM »
Hi all. Reigniting this topic if I may:
I have had all 4 steel rims repowdered and all looking good. Tyres are old and need replacing.
The original 185/hr/14 are limited to two brands and super expensive.
I’ve read on the forum that 205/70/14 is a close replacement: my question is if I opt for those, I would still be able to use the same 14 inch rims, right?
May be dumb question but I am learning every day 😃

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Re: Tyre size for 1979 280SE
« Reply #8 on: 18 November 2021, 11:17 AM »
I can't and don't want to look into another person's wallet, but have you looked at these Vredestein's : https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/tyres/185-14/185r14-vredestein.html  ? They are the right size and have a nice thread. And Vredestein is not a bad brand (or is that my Dutch pride speaking  ;D ) .

Can't say if 205/70-14 would fit. They were mounted to 6.5J rims, while 185/70-14 were mounted on 6J rims.
1971 R107 350 SL (Dad's)
1975 W116 280 S (Dad's)
1975 W116 450 SEL 6.9 #140 (Dad's)
1977 W123 230 (Mine)
1992 W124 230 CE (Mine)

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Re: Tyre size for 1979 280SE
« Reply #9 on: 18 November 2021, 12:23 PM »
Hi Max. You can look and if you find anything let me know.  ;D
I have to admit I am leaning towards the Vredestein! It is actually not that much more expensive than the alternative.


I can't and don't want to look into another person's wallet, but have you looked at these Vredestein's : https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/tyres/185-14/185r14-vredestein.html  ? They are the right size and have a nice thread. And Vredestein is not a bad brand (or is that my Dutch pride speaking  ;D ) .

Can't say if 205/70-14 would fit. They were mounted to 6.5J rims, while 185/70-14 were mounted on 6J rims.

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Re: Tyre size for 1979 280SE
« Reply #10 on: 18 November 2021, 06:39 PM »
Cut & paste  from an old post in this Forum  from member "OzBenzhead"



Re: 116 tire size?
« Reply #1 on: 17 April 2006, 04:45 PM »
According to my Owner's Manual, these were the standard tyres:

280 S / SE / SEL ("summer" tyres) - 185 HR 14 or 185 HR 14 90 H or 185 R 14 90 H - on 6 J x 14 H 2 wheels

350 SE / SEL ("summer" tyres) - 205/70 HR 14 or 205/70 HR 14 93 H or 205/70 R 14 93 H - on 6.5 J x 14 H 2 wheels

450 SE / SEL ("summer" tyres) - 205/70 VR 14 - on 6.5 J x 14 H 2 wheels.

This Owner's Manual does not include specs for the 6.9.

I am presently running my 116 280 SE on Sumitomo SC890 A/S whitewalls of spec. P205 70R 14 93 M+S on the 6 J x 14 H 2 "bottle-top"/"baroque" ("bundt" to Statesiders)




And as a side note, many sets of tyres ago I ran a set of 205 70 R14  on the standard 6J rims. The guy at the tyre store assured me they would fit the bill.  They looked, nice being slightly wider and performed well enough, however my car insurance would have been voided in an accident, as they were not a manufacturer recommended product for the rim.  Suffice to say I changed them for 195 soon after (this was acceptable to the insurance company) and I sold the 205's at a huge discount.  I;ve been running 195's ever since.
I don't know what I will find next time I need to replace the rubber as these sizes are getting very rare, almost non existant. What is around is mucho $$$$.
 
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Re: Tyre size for 1979 280SE
« Reply #11 on: 25 November 2021, 01:57 AM »
Just to chime in, I too felt that the 116.020 185 or 195 recommended was far too narrow, especially with the size and weight of the car. Maybe at the time of manufacture it was appropriate considering other cars also had similar tires and poorer braking performance, however, in this modern day where even cheaper cars have high braking performance, I personally feel the smaller tires is risking it especially in the wet with the 116.020 which doesn't have ABS. Anyway, to cut the story short I've upgraded to more modern wheels off a W220 and Michelin tires. I find braking performance in wet or dry to be much more appropriate for today's traffic conditions.

A side benefit is the slight longer gearing that the larger diameter wheel & tire combo gives which improves drivability considerably.

Insurance issues however have to be settled. I managed to talk to my insurer and they agree that modern tires is the way to go and allowed my modification. I am however in Malaysia and each company and country would differ.

Ryan.
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Re: Tyre size for 1979 280SE
« Reply #12 on: 25 November 2021, 06:37 AM »
I run Kumho Optimo 715, 205/70/14 on my 280S with standard steel wheels. Been on the car for over 10,000km and drive fine. If anything they look too small, 185s would look like pizza cutters!!!
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