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Title: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: 911-450 on 08 November 2015, 07:19 AM
I'm looking at purchasing a 450 SEL several thousand miles away and am trying to figure out what color it is. I think it's an 876 from the photos, but the car is listed as a 1974 .. so not sure it could be. If not, any idea which it is? http://www.w116.org/tech/colors/ Thank you in advance for any help! regards, James
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: floyd111 on 08 November 2015, 08:03 AM
looks like you re correct
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: ptashek on 08 November 2015, 08:48 AM
Best bet is to ask the seller for details of the options plate from under the hood. It'll tell you the original colour code.
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: 911-450 on 08 November 2015, 08:55 AM
Thanks, I will. Just thought I'd see if anyone has one and could verify for me. Thank you!
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: s class on 08 November 2015, 09:32 AM
That is very definately NOT cypress green, not even close.  Cypress is a dark green with a hint o gold and brown. 

(http://www.meinbenz.de/farben/116/876zypresse.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: 911-450 on 08 November 2015, 09:35 AM
Ah, ok .. wow that looks way different than the color chart at http://www.w116.org/tech/colors/ .  Anyone have a guess. (I will try to get the owner to look.) As I said, it's reported to be a '74, so it kind of limits the options.  JLM
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: rumb on 08 November 2015, 10:05 AM
I'd say it is 876.  As said, just get the number from the info plate to be sure.

I like the color whatever it is!
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: floyd111 on 08 November 2015, 02:18 PM
I see 2 big issues here..
First, it isn't at all sure this Benz has an official Benz color.
Second, the official color code sheet is as realistic as Bush's second term in office.

If S-Class is right -and I believe he is, that color code sheet isn't worth a dime. These 2 W116 paint jobs could not be further apart.
Closest thing to actual colors is Thistle Green, and that ain't it neither, be it that Thistle has the capacity to change color enormously in different light and angles.
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: mirafioriman on 08 November 2015, 04:17 PM
Having owned a cypress green W116 it definitely isn't cypress green. It may have been originally but it looks like its been repainted in a non standard colour to me. Or it could be a rare Mercedes colour. I don't remember ever seeing a W116 in that colour before.
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: ptashek on 08 November 2015, 04:46 PM
Quote from: floyd111 on 08 November 2015, 02:18 PM
Second, the official color code sheet is as realistic as Bush's second term in office.

Once you have the official colour code and manufacturer from the options plate, you can actually look it all up online at the OEM vendor's site. Both are still in business and doing well.

Keep in mind that unless you're viewing the official colour chart on a perfectly calibrated display, you may get wildly varying results depending on hardware. Printed charts fade with years - same issue.
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: s class on 09 November 2015, 02:18 AM
I have seen many zypress benzes in the metal, and the photo I posted up is a fairly accurate representation.
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: gavin116 on 09 November 2015, 01:45 PM
Hi James


The colours mentioned on this forum are true and correct in name and number (paint code) only.  The colour assigned next to each name is not the actual colour, but an approximation of the colour just to guide you quickly to the correct group of colours, i.e. that are not actual paint chips.


As your car is 1974, I got out my May 1974 paint chip brochure.  I think your car is a flat colour, specifically 860 Green.  There is a metallic green, 861 Silver green for that year, but I do not think it is this colour. 


Click on the images to enlarge them - sorry I took them in the kitchen, and the light isn't too good + shadows + flash, but you get the idea.


Hope this helps,


Gavin


Edit: I stand corrected, there is a second metallic green: Stone-pine green code 862, but as we can see, it is a very dark colour, the car in the picture is much lighter.  Incidentally, this is the forerunner to Cypress green metallic (which makes its first appearance in the Oct 1976 colour chip brochure).  And there is also a second flat green colour: Dark olive 291, but again too dark for the car in the picture.
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Post by: ptashek on 09 November 2015, 02:33 PM
That's a great resource Gavin. Any chance you could scan it somewhere? That last page is quite interesting.
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Post by: rumb on 09 November 2015, 04:01 PM
just found this on fleabay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-1975-Mercedes-Benz-Factory-Paint-Colors-Brochure-wf6309-WK84HN-/290876034741
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: Beastie on 09 November 2015, 06:20 PM
More photos with better zoom: http://www.autotraderclassics.com/classic-car/1974-Mercedes_Benz-450SEL-1292153.xhtml

Not that it helped me.:P
I'd guess it's a recently repainted silver green (861) but I think Gavin may be on the right track in saying that it could be a solid gloss rather than a metallic, which would only leave green 860, if it's an original colour at all.
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: 911-450 on 09 November 2015, 09:17 PM
Hi Gavin - you are correct! It's 860.. got the build sheet today from my local MB dealer (took awhile but they figured it out). Turns out, the build is 1974 for model year 1975. Now .. if I could only figure out what the color *really* looks like. From the photo it looks more like 867, which I really like from other photos I've seen on the web .. but the 860 pictures I've seen look darker than the one from the photo. But the fact you picked 860 makes me think it really does look like that. In any event, what do you all think of 860 - do you like the color?

best, James

Quote from: gavin116 on 09 November 2015, 01:45 PM
Hi James


The colours mentioned on this forum are true and correct in name and number (paint code) only.  The colour assigned next to each name is not the actual colour, but an approximation of the colour just to guide you quickly to the correct group of colours, i.e. that are not actual paint chips.


As your car is 1974, I got out my May 1974 paint chip brochure.  I think your car is a flat colour, specifically 860 Green.  There is a metallic green, 861 Silver green for that year, but I do not think it is this colour. 


Click on the images to enlarge them - sorry I took them in the kitchen, and the light isn't too good + shadows + flash, but you get the idea.


Hope this helps,


Gavin


Edit: I stand corrected, there is a second metallic green: Stone-pine green code 862, but as we can see, it is a very dark colour, the car in the picture is much lighter.  Incidentally, this is the forerunner to Cypress green metallic (which makes its first appearance in the Oct 1976 colour chip brochure).  And there is also a second flat green colour: Dark olive 291, but again too dark for the car in the picture.
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: floyd111 on 10 November 2015, 07:13 AM
"I have seen many zypress benzes in the metal, and the photo I posted up is a fairly accurate representation."

Yes, your photos are, but I was referring to your photo, and the color code sheet. Those two items are very different in color.
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: ptashek on 10 November 2015, 04:55 PM
Quote from: 911-450 on 09 November 2015, 09:17 PM
if I could only figure out what the color *really* looks like.

This is an example of a 350SE in 860 green:
http://www.meinbenz.de/farben/116/860.htm

I like it. It's "business like", suits the car well.
My all time favourite though is Milan Brown (404).
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: 911-450 on 10 November 2015, 04:57 PM
AH yes, that's the one picture of 860 I could find as well! Thank you. And I agree, 404 is beautiful! best, James

Quote from: ptashek on 10 November 2015, 04:55 PM
Quote from: 911-450 on 09 November 2015, 09:17 PM
if I could only figure out what the color *really* looks like.

This is an example of a 350SE in 860 green:
http://www.meinbenz.de/farben/116/860.htm

I like it. It's "business like", suits the car well.
My all time favourite though is Milan Brown (404).
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: floyd111 on 10 November 2015, 06:24 PM
there's another 860 here;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjFNTkcvoqE
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: floyd111 on 10 November 2015, 06:46 PM
Think this is another one?
http://www.carstart.de/showAd/Mercedes-Benz-450SEL-6-9-W116/3479067
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: 911-450 on 10 November 2015, 07:13 PM
Is it the one at the 1:12 mark?

Quote from: floyd111 on 10 November 2015, 06:24 PM
there's another 860 here;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjFNTkcvoqE
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: 911-450 on 10 November 2015, 07:13 PM
Great, thanks!

Quote from: floyd111 on 10 November 2015, 06:46 PM
Think this is another one?
http://www.carstart.de/showAd/Mercedes-Benz-450SEL-6-9-W116/3479067
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: Beastie on 10 November 2015, 08:02 PM
Quote from: 911-450 on 10 November 2015, 07:13 PM
Is it the one at the 1:12 mark?

Quote from: floyd111 on 10 November 2015, 06:24 PM
there's another 860 here;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjFNTkcvoqE
That's mimosa yellow. I think 860 green is the one at the 2 minute mark.
Title: Re: Is this Cypress Green Metallic?
Post by: 911-450 on 10 November 2015, 08:40 PM
Oh ok, got it, thanks!

Quote from: Beastie on 10 November 2015, 08:02 PM
Quote from: 911-450 on 10 November 2015, 07:13 PM
Is it the one at the 1:12 mark?

Quote from: floyd111 on 10 November 2015, 06:24 PM
there's another 860 here;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjFNTkcvoqE
That's mimosa yellow. I think 860 green is the one at the 2 minute mark.