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Grey velours interior

Started by rumb, 04 January 2020, 10:14 AM

rumb

I am contemplating putting in grey velours interior in my Anthracite 6.9.  Even though a purist, I absolutely love the velour interiors that scream Euro to me. I only found one picture on the web, it looks like the rest of trim is black and the carpets are off-black of some sort.  Anyone ever seen a grey interior or know what the recommended color combinations were? I've already crossed the line by having seat heaters added.  ::)
'68 250S
'77 6.9 Euro
'91 300SE,
'98 SL500
'14 CLS550,
'16 AMG GTS
'21 E450 Cabrio

ptashek

I'd stay away as far as possible from velours if you want it to last. Based on [1] grey was only available in cloth, mb-tex and leather (colour codes 078, 138 and 238) from 1979 onwards.

Most of what appears grey is probably badly weathered anthracite ;)

[1] http://www.meinbenz.de/polster/116/polster116.htm
1993 "Pearl Blue" W124 280TE
1988 "Arctic White" W124 200T
1979 "Icon Gold" W116 450SE

UTn_boy

^^ What Lucas said.  Velour was only available in anthracite.  However, bear in mind that Mercedes never offered black carpet.  Carpeting was always anthracite for both velour and multi loop nylon.  Only the seats, interior moldings, dash, and door panels would have been a solid black color.  What you're seeing in the picture is Anthracite velour, and, as Lucas stated, it's probably faded anthracite velour at that. 
1966 250se coupe`,black/dark green leather
1970 600 midnight blue/parchment leather
1971 300sel 6.3,papyrus white/dark red leather
1975 450se, pine green metallic/green leather
1973 300sel 4.5,silver blue metallic/blue leather
1979 450sel 516 red/bamboo

floyd111

Quote from: ptashek on 04 January 2020, 11:25 AM
I'd stay away as far as possible from velours if you want it to last. Based on [1] grey was only available in cloth, mb-tex and leather (colour codes 078, 138 and 238) from 1979 onwards.

[1] http://www.meinbenz.de/polster/116/polster116.htm

<what he said. But, I think many of us here think velours is stunning, indeed. Count me in as well.
I think Lucas has spoken about aftermarket velours before. Maybe he can restate those comments?
And I found a full velours aftermarket kit for 800euros in germany, a while back. Left it because of too many unknowns. And for 800 euros, even NEW in the original packaging I worried about 40 years of natural disintegration, even though never opened.
I am still a candidate, though..

ptashek

Quote from: floyd111 on 05 January 2020, 07:39 PM
Quote from: ptashek on 04 January 2020, 11:25 AM
I'd stay away as far as possible from velours if you want it to last. Based on [1] grey was only available in cloth, mb-tex and leather (colour codes 078, 138 and 238) from 1979 onwards.

[1] http://www.meinbenz.de/polster/116/polster116.htm

<what he said. But, I think many of us here think velours is stunning, indeed. Count me in as well.
I think Lucas has spoken about aftermarket velours before. Maybe he can restate those comments?
And I found a full velours aftermarket kit for 800euros in germany, a while back. Left it because of too many unknowns. And for 800 euros, even NEW in the original packaging I worried about 40 years of natural disintegration, even though never opened.
I am still a candidate, though..

Original or aftermarket, it's the same story unfortunately.
Some of the upholsterers I've asked about velours strongly suggested going either for leather, or vinyl instead. Supply is weak as well.
Velours might be fine on a trailer queen, but not in even semi-regular use. Just to give you an idea, my 450 did 69k miles in its 35 years up-to the resto, and the velours was worn out already. Faded, rubbed out to bare underlay fabric in a few spots, with the driver bolster shot completely. I've seen a couple examples with less or comparable mileage, and all were already showing signs of deterioration.

It looks great, feels great, doesn't last at all :)
1993 "Pearl Blue" W124 280TE
1988 "Arctic White" W124 200T
1979 "Icon Gold" W116 450SE

rumb

Thanks for all the insights.  dabrio.de sells grey and anthracite velours: https://cabrio.de/en/interiors-khm/upholstery-material

I will think about this for awhile.  My car will be garaged and out of sunlight and heat most of the time. Over the next 20 years I would be lucky to drive it 40K miles. So perhaps the velours would last that long. Longevity aside I do think that velours would be very attractive and unique.

For now I will get sample of both colors to ponder further.
'68 250S
'77 6.9 Euro
'91 300SE,
'98 SL500
'14 CLS550,
'16 AMG GTS
'21 E450 Cabrio

marku

Yes velour will wear given heavy use but I don't think Mercedes would use a poor material. My 450SE has bamboo velour and has done 117K. There is very slight wear on the outer edge of the driver's seat cushion. Not really noticeable unless you are determined to find it and the other seats are unmarked.
1974 450SE silver green/bamboo velour/green vinyl roof

daantjie

Whenever I hear velour being mentioned, it brings to mind this clip ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nc42tliHDE
Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9 - Astralsilber

Jed

1979 Mercedes 6.9 #5206 - restored
1979 Mercedes 6.9 #6424 - ongoing restoration
1976 Mercedes 6.9 #484 - restoration?

UTn_boy

Watching that clip reminds me of how people around where I live used to pronounce Brougham.  They would pronounce it bro ("o" as in the word "go") and then "ham".....like a ham you eat.  Bro-ham.  It always make me lose a little faith in humanity. haha 
1966 250se coupe`,black/dark green leather
1970 600 midnight blue/parchment leather
1971 300sel 6.3,papyrus white/dark red leather
1975 450se, pine green metallic/green leather
1973 300sel 4.5,silver blue metallic/blue leather
1979 450sel 516 red/bamboo