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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #75 on: 10 September 2017, 12:33 PM »
RUMB, do NOT buy the grill badge from Mercedes.  The originals were copper with nickel plating, and then a coating of blue and white enamel on top of that.  The enamel process is called champleve`, and is rather expensive to restore, but there are companies that restore old champleve` badges.  The new one from Mercedes is painted, looks horrible, and is overpriced to a large degree considering it's painted. 
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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #76 on: 10 September 2017, 04:35 PM »
it only costs about 20 bucks doesn't it? you can also just got to the dealer and get one in a few days!
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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #77 on: 11 September 2017, 01:02 AM »
I was quoted about $750 for 3D scanning, which would be the first step for any method of reproduction.

750 for scanning?That's  a little steep, maybe. Normally, anyone with a scanner should be the one doing production. That way, scanning is in the price (or off the price) of the produced goods.
Still, as long as my baffle is missing, I can't scan anything here, but would be glad to have a scan sent to me, so I can run it past a couple of automotive companies here.
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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #78 on: 11 September 2017, 06:06 AM »
it only costs about 20 bucks doesn't it? you can also just got to the dealer and get one in a few days!

W108's are cool now and also over 50 yrs old.

108-880-00-88 $263.52 from that little repo badge......

MOLDING, GRILLE, METAL - MERCEDES-BENZ (110-888-00-21)    $187.88  this is the vertical one. I will prob get the turkey repo set.  I used them on my W116 and you cant tell any different from the originals. http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-W108-GRILLE-MOULDINGS-VERTICAL-HORIZONTAL-NEW-/162606437588?hash=item25dc1954d4:g:CI4AAOxyKh5R9aTt&vxp=mtr


just for fun I ran across this MB grill watch!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-300-600-SEL-6-3-Grille-Art-Deco-W108-W109-Car-Design-Watch-/182751108086?hash=item2a8cd09bf6:g:fCoAAOSwUIhZYNIV
I've been looking on fleabay, where you can buy an entire grill assy with the badge for less.  trying to spot a good one with and original badge. small hole variety grill.
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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #79 on: 11 September 2017, 07:32 AM »
Hi Rumb

Did you ever find that front spoiler?
I have a used one that shows some distortion along the mounting edge and some scraping on the bottom.
It looks perfectly good when mounted to the car.
If you are interested, I will loan it to you for copying.
However, I need it back ,of course.



 

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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #80 on: 11 September 2017, 08:12 AM »
Ah-ha, it's a dodo bird ;D ;D ;D
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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #81 on: 11 September 2017, 09:38 AM »
I just had a  plastic guru take a look at the spoiler.
With in a couple of minutes he took some of the waviness out.
He could probably do better with more time.
Also the scraping on the bottom can be removed and the visible surface can be restored to almost new condition.


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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #82 on: 11 September 2017, 04:51 PM »
it only costs about 20 bucks doesn't it? you can also just got to the dealer and get one in a few days!

Nathan, as RUMB stated, the badge and grill strips in question here are for an early W108/W109 car.  They have a different grill badge as compared to the W116.  IN addition, the W116 grill badges are supposed to be painted anyway, as they were when new. 

Regarding the grill badge itself for a W116, the current part number, 115-880-03-88, is no longer available.  The part number has been superseded to part number
116-880-02-88, which currently lists for over $200 USD.  So no, they're not $20. 
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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #83 on: 12 September 2017, 05:04 AM »
 ;D   I bought mine last year off fleabay for $10.08!!!!
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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #84 on: 12 September 2017, 09:10 AM »
sorry Rum, I didn't see the prior page and thought you were referring to the 116 badges!

UTn, kudos to you for dispelling my question.
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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #85 on: 12 October 2017, 12:44 AM »
Good news, I think..
I found my baffle spoiler and it's mint, NOS as was promised.
Immediately took it to the factory and received quotes for 10, 50 and 100 units.
50 units in fiberglass can be shipped out from Taiwan for 200usd a pop.
In order to proceed I would need gentlemen's commitments from those that want one.
The item is very light, so shipping worldwide would be at a very friendly rate.
Naturally, the perfect fit and finish would be under my warranty.
Your thoughts please.

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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #86 on: 12 October 2017, 02:47 AM »
Stan, is there any way that you can have them made like the originals?  That is, ,make them out of the nylon propylene material instead of fiberglass? 
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1970 600 midnight blue/parchment leather
1971 300sel 6.3, papyrus white/dark red leather
1973 300sel 4.5, silver blue metallic/blue leather
1976 280s astral silver/blue MB Tex
1978 450sel 6.9 Euro, Anthr/velour

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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #87 on: 12 October 2017, 03:08 AM »
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Stan, is there any way that you can have them made like the originals?  That is, ,make them out of the nylon propylene material instead of fiberglass?

I agree. The baffle plate sits very low, and fiberglass will break very fast when hitting the next sidewalk.
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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #88 on: 12 October 2017, 05:11 AM »
I agree, some type of tough plastic is needed.
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Re: baffle plate
« Reply #89 on: 12 October 2017, 07:44 AM »
Naturally, I checked that option first. It is impossible to do without very expensive extrusion molds, anywhere between 25 and 50 thou. That's why MB would charge 1400 euros if ever they reproduce them.
Carbon is an option, though, but it will cost 100usd more.