Author Topic: Are Headliner Panels The Same Between Cars With And Without Sunroof?  (Read 2538 times)

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Are the headliner panels the same between cars with and without sunroof? I'm most concerned with the long ones on the side, as pictured below. They look the same, but I can't tell. I believe the front (header) panels are different to accommodate the metal trim for the sunroof.

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Re: Are Headliner Panels The Same Between Cars With And Without Sunroof?
« Reply #1 on: 13 November 2019, 02:29 PM »
Sorry for the late reply. You must have found out already, by now.

https://gahh.com/headliners?material_type=254&vehicle_make=238&years=4888

GAHH sells with- and without sunroof headliner for W116.


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Re: Are Headliner Panels The Same Between Cars With And Without Sunroof?
« Reply #2 on: 13 November 2019, 09:48 PM »
Sorry for the late reply. You must have found out already, by now.

https://gahh.com/headliners?material_type=254&vehicle_make=238&years=4888

GAHH sells with- and without sunroof headliner for W116.

The headliner would be different, but I'm wondering if the panels on the sides of the headliner would be the same between sunroof and non-sunroof cars. No one seems to know.
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Re: Are Headliner Panels The Same Between Cars With And Without Sunroof?
« Reply #3 on: 14 November 2019, 05:34 AM »
O right. I read that wrong. OK, would you not be able to tell from photo comparisons?
Or, part numbers? The EPC should know

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Re: Are Headliner Panels The Same Between Cars With And Without Sunroof?
« Reply #4 on: 14 November 2019, 08:02 AM »
The lateral panels are different, according to EPC part numbers and footnotes.

116-690-01-25 Lateral paneling - Left , Vehicle without sunroof (Footnote: 188) (not listed in EPC-  but deternimed by interpolation)
116-690-02-25 Lateral paneling - Right , Vehicle without sunroof (Footnote: 188)

116-690-07-25 Lateral paneling - Left , Vehicle with electric sunroof (Footnote: 189)
116-690-08-25 Lateral paneling - Right, Vehicle with electric sunroof (Footnote: 189)


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Re: Are Headliner Panels The Same Between Cars With And Without Sunroof?
« Reply #5 on: 14 November 2019, 09:04 AM »
O right. I read that wrong. OK, would you not be able to tell from photo comparisons?
Or, part numbers? The EPC should know

I've looked through many photo comparisons, and they look the same, but then at some angles look different. The shipping cost alone of these is quite a bit and makes me not sure I want to gamble on just getting them and seeing if they fit or not. I don't have access to EPC due to the high cost. I use a Russian EPC-like site, but it's not complete and wasn't helpful.
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Re: Are Headliner Panels The Same Between Cars With And Without Sunroof?
« Reply #6 on: 14 November 2019, 09:06 AM »
The lateral panels are different, according to EPC part numbers and footnotes.

116-690-01-25 Lateral paneling - Left , Vehicle without sunroof (Footnote: 188) (not listed in EPC-  but deternimed by interpolation)
116-690-02-25 Lateral paneling - Right , Vehicle without sunroof (Footnote: 188)

116-690-07-25 Lateral paneling - Left , Vehicle with electric sunroof (Footnote: 189)
116-690-08-25 Lateral paneling - Right, Vehicle with electric sunroof (Footnote: 189)

Thank you! So, there clearly is a difference. It makes me wonder if they are the same, other than the ones for the sunroof are just bowed downward a bit more to accommodate. Oh, well. I had an opportunity to get a great deal on some for my car because the hot climate is destroying mine, but don't think I want to pay the shipping if they won't fit, or very well.
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