Am I Ready For Concourse ?

[floyd111]

Denial has always worked pretty good for me..

[rumb]

As far as I know that style of clamp in NLA.


Side note, my 250S just received Preservation Class award.

[UTn_boy]

As far as I know that style of clamp in NLA.

Yes, that is true, but there are people that restore the OE style clamps and sell them.  Peter can't use the later style clamps for two reasons:
1) He already has some of the original clamps i the engine bay.  Mixing two styles of clamps isn't allowed. 
2) the level of restoration that Peter has done on his car requires the correct clamps. 

Peters car won't qualify for preservation class when it's being judged simply due to the level of restoration the car has undergone.  If he buys the later style clamps, he'll have to replace every single clamp under the hood so they all match, and may or may not be docked half a point for using non OE clamps.  I suppose it Depends on the judge(s) and what level of knowledge they have.   Since judging is so close by time wise, he may have to do the later style clamps. 

[Max-NL]

If he used the ABA Mini W1 throughout (I'd assume mixed would still be deduction), is the chance on deduction smaller/nil because it has the same style, or is it still a deduction because it's not OE clamps?

[Peter]

Engine Bay coming along nicely with an MB Battery and the decal repositioned, correct brake pedal rubber now on order along with the correct distributor cap and the two aircon drain hoses for the bulkhead and early next week I'm off to the wreckers to find the correct original hose clamps. I checked yesterday and the bottom radiator hose has the correct clamps. Top hose does have MB clamps just a decade or so too new. Thanks for the information everyone. 

[ptashek]

I think the original battery should also have a terminal cover on both positive (red) and negative (black) terminals.
I haven't bothered, but since you're going for concourse it may matter.

[UTn_boy]

If he used the ABA Mini W1 throughout (I'd assume mixed would still be deduction), is the chance on deduction smaller/nil because it has the same style, or is it still a deduction because it's not OE clamps?

In the case of these clamps, I'd buy all of the correct sizes and source the correct phillips head screws separately, which is totally possible.  Just make sure the screws are all either yellow or clear zinc plated. If these are used throughout and all of them have the hex head, then it'll still likely be docked a half a point due to them not being original. However, consistency is preferred over not having consistency.  Again, the judges may not even know the difference, so it's hard to speculate. 

The original clamps were clear zinc plated without passivation, which gave them the dull finish.  Since the newer ones are shiny, that may also have an affect on point deductions, but if it does, that would be really petty of a judge since he/she may have already taken half a point off for the initial reason of non OE clamps. 

and the two aircon drain hoses for the bulkhead

Peter, just for clarification purposes, these rubber drain hoses aren't for the air conditioning.  These two drains are only for draining water from the cowl. The air conditioning drain hoses are further down underneath of the car......directly under the dash, so to speak.  Also, I think they're supposed to be reddish orange in color.  Are they still available?  I thought that there were no longer available for many years now. 

Pteshek, none of the factory literature or pictures I have show ant terminal covers on the original batteries.  Is there a chance that this detail was of a regional variation?  Maybe Australia required it, and the U.S. didn't?  Just guessing here.....

[ptashek]

Pteshek, none of the factory literature or pictures I have show ant terminal covers on the original batteries.  Is there a chance that this detail was of a regional variation?  Maybe Australia required it, and the U.S. didn't?  Just guessing here.....

That could very well be so, or it may be a late model thing. The EPC shows terminal cover parts for my 1979 VIN, and the currently sold battery has dedicated slots for these.

[Peter]

A belated congratulations to Rumb for his 250S winning preservation class   The wreckers didn't have the correct hose clamps and my guy in Canberra only had the two for the heater hoses so I have order NOS Norma clamps from Authentic Classics in the USA.

[tcj]

Hi Peter,

I am very sure about RHD-cars, but as your car has an early dash (speakers looking down)
your car should also be an early car.
If this is correct then your red AC-Sticker is wrong.
If your sticker reads 123 835 0188 then it is only for cars from ~1977.
Earlier cars need the two smaller stickers 108 835 0088 + 123 835 00 88.
If your red sticker has a number starting with 124... then it is "only" a later
replacement.
As I am sending you the cruise control sticker in a few days (hope so) - just let me know
if you also need ac-stickers.

And it looks like your ID-Plate is missing... The holes to mount it are still there (see the yellow circles)
Thomas

[tcj]

another photo - also from a Yorkstar Motors car...

[Peter]

Hi Thomas, here is a close up of the ATE sticker on the brake booster you requested.
The car is a 1979 and in regard to the aircon decal I simply replaced exactly the "original" decal that was faded and damaged. The part number on the decal is 124 835 01 88 so I am a little confused and I can see what you mean in regard to the data plate.

[Peter]

Further to the information on the data plate - for some reason in the late 70's i.e. 1978 onward if the vehicle came into Australia through Yorkstar Motors they removed the Mercedes data plate and placed the Yorkstar plate over the top !!!  Why, well I have no idea.

[tcj]

Hi Peter,

AC: fine - your car is from 1979 - so you need the later AC-Sticker.

But your Sticker 124 835 01 88 is not correct. Its the sticker mercedes is selling
as a replacement for some years now if you order the correct 123 835 0188.
Have a look at the 124-sticker:
It reads the ac-fluid-content for the W201 and the W124, that are cars
nobody thought about in 1979. And no data for the 116 on the sticker.

What you need is the sticker 123 835 0188 - if there is a chance that a judge
knows the difference.

ATE-Sticker: thanks - that helps!

[Peter]

Thanks for the advice Thomas, put me down for one of the 123 stickers.