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Started by JasonP, 01 June 2012, 01:49 AM

JasonP


Here is a thread about torque - what it is, what tools we use, how important it is, how we skirt around the specifications.

I would like to see everyone's input on these issues.

* I have heard that garages usually ignore torque, because they think it is a waste of time

* What percentage past the specs do you think is acceptable?

* Do you cheat torque specs and get away with it?

* What is your favorite torque wrench type?

* What is your favorite torque wrench brand?

* Should men start wearing torques again, to combat the feminization of the modern male?

1979 300SD
Color: 623H "Light Ivory"
1979 300SD
Color: 861H "Silver Green Metallic"
1977 280 E
Color: 606G "Maple Yellow"
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Big_Richard

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TJ 450

By the book I say, and yes it is all too easy to overtighten pan bolts.

I use and abuse one of the "clicky" torque wrenches, but would rather one of the spring types.

Tim
1976 450SEL 6.9 1432
1969 300SEL 6.3 1394
2003 ML500

Casey

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Quote from: TJ 450 on 01 June 2012, 04:38 AM
I use and abuse one of the "clicky" torque wrenches, but would rather one of the spring types.

Likewise, because it was the cheap option.  I see a lovely one like I see pictures of in the Mercedes manuals in my future, though...  Most of my other tools are Craftsman...but I'm not sure this is the best option:
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-150-ft-lb-beam-style-torque-wrench/p-00944642000P

Is there an official Hazet part or something?

Tony66_au

Torque specs are there for a reason and must be adhered to, Sometimes its so you dont deform a gasket and sometimes its to deal with stress and strain on components that are repeatedly heated and cooled.

I even torque up wheel nuts / studs because of something I learned fettling Euro cars where over tight nuts warped descrotors.

I can understand how a mechanic with a gazillion hours on the tools develops an instinctive "Feel" for how tight shit should be and makes a judgement call but it still doesnt make it right.

I had 12 torque wrenches on the shop floor from small inch pound units to half inch 3 foot monster bars and if they were dropped or knocked hard then we would check them or replace them incase they were out of calibration.

And if you didnt use one where you should? it was big smack time! (Nordic Sven was punishment master in the shop) and gradually everyone figured it out except for Reagan who I suspect enjoyed a good spanking.

But a torque wrench is really only half the equation, Make sure the stud or bolt holes are clean... Dont lube the bolts or studs with engine oil or they will hydraulic when you tighten them and cleanliness is important.

Clean before you disassemble and while you disassemble, work clean and assemble clean.

And above all,  Use a handbrake when parked on hills.

1980sdga

This thread has me a little torqued...


;D

JasonP


Quote from: 1980sdga on 28 June 2012, 07:10 PM
This thread has me a little torqued...

;D

"Anger is an energy." - Public Image Ltd, "Rise"

Alas, I have no Parking Brake. My car came without one. It is on my to-do list. I don't even know which pieces are missing: it could be a single cable, or the entire thing. The pedal is there, and the release knob, so I can pretend.



1979 300SD
Color: 623H "Light Ivory"
1979 300SD
Color: 861H "Silver Green Metallic"
1977 280 E
Color: 606G "Maple Yellow"
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philpot

QuoteIs there an official Hazet part or something?

Hazet Torques wrenches are beautiful. They have standard square drive units and a an interchangeable head style. They are expensive but indestructable. Most of my previous employers have provided Snap On Torque Wrenches and they are not a patch on the Hazet units.

As for using torque wrenches and following the manuals, think about what could go wrong. Using a torque wrench is one less hole in the swiss cheese which might line up.

If you were to watch one of your AMG Pentas bouncing away down the road as you grind to a halt on your brake rotor, would you think it was worth leaving the torque wrench on the shelf?

Tony66_au

Quote from: 1980sdga on 28 June 2012, 07:10 PM
This thread has me a little torqued...


;D

Whatchoo Torqueing about Willis?

Casey

Guys, I have searched far and wide, and have finally found the ultimate torque wrench:



"This tool is complete all by itself, and will attach firmly to any non-recessed fastener, nut or bolt.

Compatible With All Of Your Existing Fastener Tools!
For recessed fasteners, such as recessed crank bolts, Allen bolts of all sorts, Phillips and slotted-head screws, the TORK-GRIP Universal Torque Wrench can grab onto any 1/4", 3/8", 1/2" or even 3/4" drive socket, any Allen wrench, or any screwdriver-type handle!"

"Old-fashioned torque wrenches from our pitiful competitors are calibrated in meaningless numbers. The TORK-GRIP Universal Torque Wrench, however is clearly marked in easily understandable calibration marks instead:"



Inertial Impact Alignment Tool
"Works as an inertial impact alignment tool (also known as a "hammer"), too! The TORK-GRIP Universal Torque Wrench is a solid, hefty tool, and can serve as a hammer in case of need. If the bulk of the tool itself isn't sufficient for your hammering needs, you can clamp any heavy metal object into its powerful curved jaws to increase its heft and hitting power!"

Great for Self Defense Too!
"The TORK-GRIP Universal Torque Wrench is also extremely useful in medium-duty hand-to-hand combat, due to its superior reach and ruggedness. You can even clamp a knife blade into the jaws when needed for that extra "edge" over your opponent."

TJ 450

1976 450SEL 6.9 1432
1969 300SEL 6.3 1394
2003 ML500