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Started by nathan, 08 December 2008, 08:47 AM

nathan

ok, so i will never catch craigS but anyhow.
after buyin the dark 500sel 126 for my gwagen engine transplant, it was  discovered that someone really screwed up the KE jet system by tinkering with the cat system.
the mehcanic suggested K jet is far simpler and cheaper than trying to restore my cat system.  it was going to cost X dollars to get another 500engine with the K jet system...then i found this 84 500sel with K jet...i offered a low price based on what the K jet engine alone was going to cost me and to my surprise, i now have another 500!  i will be using the original dark 500s engine as it is a later higher compression engine with more power...
anyhow, if anyone is after 126 parts, i now have 2 to wreck!


1979 116 6.9 #6436
2018 213 e63
2011 212 e63
2011 463 g55
2007 211 e500 wagen
1995 124 e320 cabriolet
1983 460 300gd
1981 123 280te

TJ 450

Why buy an engine when you can buy a whole car for the same price, or less. But wait, there's more... you get free sheepskins! :D
Seriously though, it really is getting to that stage.

That's awesome, I think you've got every option covered for the conversion now.

Tim
1976 450SEL 6.9 1432
1969 300SEL 6.3 1394
2003 ML500

s class

Nathan, I understand your reasoning, but I see it here too with big old benzes.  Its really sad that they are worth nothing. 


[color=blue]'76 6.9 Euro[/color], [color=red]'78 6.9 AMG[/color], '80 280SE, [color=brown]'74 350SE[/color], [color=black]'82 500SEL euro full hydro, '83 500SEL euro full hydro [/color], '81 500SL

alabbasi

I'm currently at 57.9 liters but I need to go on a diet  :)
With best regards

Al
Dallas, TX USA.

oscar

Quote from: alabbasi on 08 December 2008, 03:40 PM
I'm currently at 57.9

and all MB V8's.  The temptation to line them up and start them all at once would be overwhelming.   You should get sound tech's out to record the event and burn CD's.    ;D

Nathan, the 500sel's are mobster cars after all.  You know how you see ebay ads that say "Classic Merc,mobster car" and I usually think to myself..... "whatever".  But that second photo looks either like a funeral procession is leaving your home or the underworld is ready to roll.   It's like Victor Maitland and his entourage has arrived  :D

Black out those windows man!!!! buy one more Link, discover your inner pimp.  ;D
1973 350SE, my first & fave

Big_Richard

how does the K jet compare with the KE jet in terms of acceleration ? Is there a noticable difference without the surging ?

WGB

Next thing you'll be switching to 126's and telling us the old D-B spiel that a 500 is better than a 6.9. ;D

You have a very patient father.

Yes it is a shame that cars that were once the cutting edge of automobilia are now almost worthless.

At least if you buy the whole car you get to sample the engine.

Bill

alabbasi

Quote from: oscar on 08 December 2008, 04:43 PM
Quote from: alabbasi on 08 December 2008, 03:40 PM
I'm currently at 57.9

and all MB V8's. 

Not all MB's. There is an 1.8l MGB and a 5.7l GMC pickup. the rest are MB's. If all of them would crank at different times, I would be happy.
With best regards

Al
Dallas, TX USA.

nathan

Al,
57L??? you do indeed need to go on a diet...if you lined those things up and turned them on like oscar said, i reckon you could raise you local environmental tempreature by at least 2 degrees!!  I appreciate the advice you made on my youtube vid (http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=eiwKaI5Y1eE), but i still havent fixed this damn problem...i reckon its because they ripped out the o2 sensor on the manifold amongst other things.

im yet to tell the wife Bill, but it was too cheap to pass up!

Oscar, Victor Maitland? i feel more like the south african guy in the second one  (Bev Hills Cop) - i have di-plo-matic immunity!

I feel there is a major difference between the pre- and post update engines (ie K vs KE jet)...as my dark one is not working well presently its hard to comment accurately but when cold start, its absolutely flies off the mark, probably very similar to a 6.9...in contrast the K jet early one, is brisk off the mark, not quick...once it hits 50 its has similar acceleration to the KE jet one...i dont know how much of the power increase is due to the fuel system vs how much is due to compression differences?

anyhow,
time to go and give it a clean before TJ comments on how filthy it is.

regards
nathan
1979 116 6.9 #6436
2018 213 e63
2011 212 e63
2011 463 g55
2007 211 e500 wagen
1995 124 e320 cabriolet
1983 460 300gd
1981 123 280te

Big_Richard

After you have robbed the preupdate and converted the highcompression update engine to K-jet, you have enough parts liying around from the K'jet 4.5 litre engien you had in the back yard, to still build another kjet 5 litre and sell the preupdate 500 off as a complete running car.

nathan

PB - suposedly the KET jet manifolds on the 4/5 differs to that on the 500...it would have been nice to recoup some money this way though. stuff it, il stick one of the 4.5s in there and see if i can pass it off as a 500!

Oscar, i apologise for misquoting the south african guy...he wasnt from bev hills cop at all. it was lethal weapon i was thinking of...very poor form on my behalf.
1979 116 6.9 #6436
2018 213 e63
2011 212 e63
2011 463 g55
2007 211 e500 wagen
1995 124 e320 cabriolet
1983 460 300gd
1981 123 280te

oscar

haha, you're right. I knew what you were referring to but it didn't click about Lethal Weapon.  Don't know how I missed it. It's a favourite quote at work anytime a South African nurse books a long distance trip for us against our will.  Never works though.
1973 350SE, my first & fave

Big_Richard

i had suspected the 4.5 to 5 litre manifoldds were different, but that dosent matter a stuff - you only need a non electronic fuel distributor - im fairly certain you can still bolt all the rest of the required crap from the k-jet manifold onto the KE one and still have a working Kjet 5 litre to sell.

When next we shall meet ill explain wtf im talking about if my broken english still dosent come out ok ;)

TJ 450

I agree, there shouldn't be any problem, unless the manifold doesn't have the provision for a thermostatic AAV. You could always control the idle speed with a potentiometer in the cabin.  ;)

Tim
1976 450SEL 6.9 1432
1969 300SEL 6.3 1394
2003 ML500

Big_Richard

Quote from: TJ 450 on 09 December 2008, 04:35 AM
I agree, there shouldn't be any problem, unless the manifold doesn't have the provision for a thermostatic AAV. You could always control the idle speed with a potentiometer in the cabin.  ;)

Tim

idle speed control is an independent circut of its own, if one was really clever, one could install it to work with K-jet anyway ;)

This might actually be the only option for us K-jet enthusiasts one day, considering the aav's are no longer manufactured or available.