500 SE Donor Car

[robertd]

Tony the hoist I purchased from "TuffLift", the name on it is "Tellamant"
it has a 4000kg rating, i'm happy with it

[Tony66_au]

Thanks Robert, it looks like a unit im contemplating for the new refurbished barn.

[Big_Richard]

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[robertd]

The hoist is the best money I've every spent, It turns horrible jobs into fun.
this has been my 3rd motor removal Dave, they have been a 450 out of the pumpkin, a 350 from a  south African import and this one. I would have to say that your effort with a 6.9 was pretty good going.

[nathan]

Heh RD,
what is the device you wheel the engine on, is it a specific engine transport trolley? i need about 3 of tehse things but havent seen them at the usual cheapo motor shops?
regards
nathan

[Tony66_au]

The hoist is the best money I've every spent, It turns horrible jobs into fun.
this has been my 3rd motor removal Dave, they have been a 450 out of the pumpkin, a 350 from a  south African import and this one. I would have to say that your effort with a 6.9 was pretty good going.

I had a Bishamon 4 tonner but couldn't be bothered dragging it home when I shut the shop because it has a 3 phase motor, I then spent the next 5 years kicking myself lol

[robertd]

Hey Nat,
that trolley is a simple a piece of 3/4" marine ply bolted to the bottom rolling frame of a useless "supercheap" engine stand that I dismantled. It sagged with the weight of a 450 motor on it.  think it cost @ $40
it was cheaper than buying the 4 wheels and tube frame separately

[robertd]

does anyone know where I could find the actual weight of individual motors ie. I would like to find  how much heavier  the 5ltr m117 motor is compared to the 2.8ltr M110

[Tony66_au]

I have in the past used Livestock scales to determine the weights of an engine, Know any cow or sheep cockies?

[robertd]

Hey tony,
my neighbour is a retired dairy Farmer I asked him how he would weigh a cow if he had to.
His response was quite interesting, he had a specially calibrated tape measure that he would wind around the belly of the beast and it had weight increments per inch? he said it was very accurate for cows.
He suggested I try that?
well I asked the question.

[Big_Richard]

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[nathan]

RD,
before i put the m117 in the gwagen, i drove the 280ge over the weighbridge at the rubbish tip with full tank of fuel.
after finishing the engine transplant, i did the same fully fueled. the difference in weight was 150kg!!!
the only difference is that i had also taken off the bumper bar which was 80kg.
so i make the m117 500 to be 70 kg lighter than the m110 280
thats my guestimate
regards
nathan

[Tony66_au]

His response was quite interesting, he had a specially calibrated tape measure that he would wind around the belly of the beast and it had weight increments per inch? he said it was very accurate for cows.
He suggested I try that?
well I asked the question.

I wonder if it works on mother in laws too

PHILISTINES!

I have weigh bars and a head unit good for 500 kg and I place them in a race with a board over top n run my sheep over it, Most dairy farmers working in the modern age will have a similar unit but good for 1500 kg and beef guys will definitely have scales.

You can borrow mine as I only use em twice a year but considering it takes me 90 mins to get to Mt Martha to see my Lil Bro its probably a long trip just to weigh an engine.

As for you Major Tom.........

Dont be silly, everyone knows you use a Sow tape for Mutha in Laws...........

[John Hubertz]

does anyone know where I could find the actual weight of individual motors ie. I would like to find  how much heavier  the 5ltr m117 motor is compared to the 2.8ltr M110

I'd contact the shipping department at adsitco in Muncie Indiana - they sell lots of long blocks and could give you accurate shipping weights for various types of engines.

http://www.adsitco.com/

[robertd]

Hey guys,
I used some deductive reasoning!I looked through the mercedes collectors guide and compared the tare weight from two models as follows.
   W126 280SE  weight  1610kg with the M110 iron block motor
   W126 500SE  weight  1670kg with the M117 all alloy motor
therefore all other things being equal the 5ltr alloy V8 is only 60kg heavier the the in line iron block 2.8ltr 6 cylinder.
RD