Power Window trouble, what next?

[NGK]

Hi all,
I had some good advice a few posts ago regarding my window not working. I pulled the arm off the regulator and moved the cogs (would only move 2-3 mm) to see if this would unjam the motor. This I did with a large flat screwdriver. I taped the glass so it wouldn't guillotine me, but after all this the motor still didn't engage the cogs. The motor was receiving power as it made a 'tic,'tic' noise. If it is a dead motor, how do I get this out? It seemed to be located behind the window channel. As I grabbed the regulator and moved it, the motor seemed to be attached but I couldn't see a way of getting this out. Am I missing something? What should I attempt next?
cheers,
ngk

[koan]

Job 72-183 (Doors) in the library describes how to get the motor out, it involves drilling large holes in the door frame.

koan

[NGK]

Thanks Koan, I'll give it ago, but can you tell me, once the motor is detached from the regulator, is it a matter of pulling it out minus the regulator or does the regulator need to come out as well? Do i need to disconect the battery for this operation?
cheers,
ngk

[koan]

but can you tell me, once the motor is detached from the regulator, is it a matter of pulling it out minus the regulator or does the regulator need to come out as well? Do i need to disconect the battery for this operation?

I had to replace a broken regulator but seem to remember taking out the motor first as the holes were already drilled in my door from a previous repair.

The manual gives much the same instructions for motor removal and regulator removal which I don't quite understand, I assume the regulator with motor attached went in as a unit so should come out as a unit with no hole drilling.

The motor will come out on its own once the three bolts are out.

I usually disconnect the battery when working on electrics but in this case if you unplug the connector to the motor early in the procedure there is no reason to.

koan

[NGK]

Koan,
Yeh, the manual is a little vague. I'll see what eventuates.
Not sure what I'll be up for, for a new motor, wonder if second hand is viable, I'll do some investigating.
Thanks for your help.
cheers,
ngk